Rank the 2010-2011 Mavs in comparison to the other champions in the last 10 seasons.

[FkLA]

Can someone please answer me why an 03' Spurs team, who was overly dependent on TD is getting ranked higher than the 07' team and in some cases even the 05' team?? Those two teams were still defensive juggernauts and still had a prime or very near prime TD, and in addition to that had Parker and Ginobili already established as all-stars.

That 07' team especially is getting underrated imo, they still had a defensive iden y and were becoming way more explosive/versatile offensively compared to the days were everything was ran through TD. I think people are looking into the fact that they beat a weak Cavs team in the Finals too much.

[ambchang]

The Mavs are the only Western Conference team of the bunch to win the Finals without HCA. Duncan's Spurs or Kobe's Lakers never did it. And the Mavs had to deal with 2006 in their heads. Mavs are definitely in the top 3 or top 5 of the bunch.

Not sure why a team should be rewarded for past failures.

Mavs didn't get homecourt because they didn't dominate the regular season.

Mavs had to deal with 06 .... well, because it was a horribly officiated series, but they had a hand in that too.

[Leetonidas]

You're just looking at them in the context of their season and the opponent they eventaully beat. The idea is to compare the champions. '05 Spurs were good, fine, but how does it match up against other champions, could it beat the '06 Heat, could it beat the '02 Lakers, and so on.

Did you not read where I said how they would match up with each other?

You're the guy who said the 2006 Spurs wouldn't beat the 2006 Heat on their best day.......

That's really all that needs to be said. I'm sorry but if you hold that opinion something's wrong with you.

[DubMcDub]

Nah. As a team those Spurs were better. I'm going based on their post season success and how well I think they'd match up together. The 2007 Spurs had Duncan/Ginobili/Parker all in some variation of their primes (Duncan near the end, Ginobili in the middle, Parker entering) along with Horry and Bowen still playing at high levels defensively along with the expert craftiness of Oberto. Really, Tim still being able to play at an elite level is what does it for me. The 2011 Mavs' best player is better than the 2007 Spurs' best player but the Spurs had 3 guys capable of taking the game over at any point while the Mavericks only have Dirk and Terry if he gets hot. Plus the 2007 Spurs' defense is better.

This is the exact same type of 1-2-3 player-to-player analysis that led people to conclude that the Mavs would lose to the Lakers and the Heat. If this was valid, the Heat would have swept the Mavs, and the Lakers would have beat them easily as well. Doesn't work that way.

[davethedope]

Did you not read where I said how they would match up with each other?

You're the guy who said the 2006 Spurs wouldn't beat the 2006 Heat on their best day.......

That's really all that needs to be said. I'm sorry but if you hold that opinion something's wrong with you.

Maybe I didn't But I will say this. I joined this forum not to be contrary.
I adopted the Spurs and rooted for them because the Knicks have been
for so long, but I had no idea you Spurs homers were so arrogant.
You win a few championships and swear it's the greatest team of all-time.
I'm a Yankee fan also and we have rings to spare, you don't seem
to understand what les mean, which is probably why the Spurs aren't
going to be winning any for the next few decades.

[Sean Cagney]

Maybe I didn't But I will say this. I joined this forum not to be contrary.
I adopted the Spurs and rooted for them because the Knicks have been
for so long, but I had no idea you Spurs homers were so arrogant.
You win a few championships and swear it's the greatest team of all-time.
I'm a Yankee fan also and we have rings to spare, you don't seem
to understand what les mean, which is probably why the Spurs aren't
going to be winning any for the next few decades.

So the Spurs will not win a le because you think some fans are arrogant? I would say it is because they got old and not karma from some fans bruh. Who said the Spurs were the greatest team of all times? They are 4th in les as of right now all times which is damn good, but not top 3.


BTW alot of homers are arrogant in here wouldn't you say? NAMELY Lakers fans (A FEW OF THEM).


BTW to me as a fan those les meant ALOT! Struggling from early on this team was and losing every year in the playoffs, failure after failure to eventually get lucky and get TIM and then 4 les , I feel they are blessed.

[Jacob1983]

If the Mavs repeat or at least get back to the Finals next year, would that put them over the 2004 Pistons? And yes, I'm realistic. If the Mavs let Chandler go, the repeat will be nearly impossible in my opinion. If Cuban does the right thing and throws a lot of money at Chandler and he decides to stay with the Mavs, then I say it's possible for them to repeat.

Someone should make a thread about ranking the losers from 2000-2011. Might be an interesting thread.

[Leetonidas]

This is the exact same type of 1-2-3 player-to-player analysis that led people to conclude that the Mavs would lose to the Lakers and the Heat. If this was valid, the Heat would have swept the Mavs, and the Lakers would have beat them easily as well. Doesn't work that way.

But the 2007 Spurs actually won a le and their core had won two les together prior to that whereas the current Heat haven't done jack . The Spurs also were much more complete outside their 3 starts than Miami (lol mike bibby)

[Leetonidas]

Maybe I didn't But I will say this. I joined this forum not to be contrary.
I adopted the Spurs and rooted for them because the Knicks have been
for so long, but I had no idea you Spurs homers were so arrogant.
You win a few championships and swear it's the greatest team of all-time.
I'm a Yankee fan also and we have rings to spare, you don't seem
to understand what les mean, which is probably why the Spurs aren't
going to be winning any for the next few decades.

lol "we"
lol yankee "fan"

I don't recall saying any Spurs team was the best ever, nor in my list did I have the Spurs as the top team of the last 10 seasons. Using the Yankees was great though, as if all those bought World Series' mean jack .

New York, possibly the only city with more bandwagoning, unknowledgable sports fans than LA.

[davethedope]

lol "we"
lol yankee "fan"

I don't recall saying any Spurs team was the best ever, nor in my list did I have the Spurs as the top team of the last 10 seasons. Using the Yankees was great though, as if all those bought World Series' mean jack .

New York, possibly the only city with more bandwagoning, unknowledgable sports fans than LA.

Just know you're not winning this decade, and show some humility once
and while. You had a few good years, get over yourself. You're no better
than the Rockets, when you think about it. Gimme a break. The farther
away from the les you get the stupider you're going to sound, remember
that.

As for the Yankees, Jeter, Mo, etc., from our farm system. But the
team makes money, huge money, and we can afford the best.
Sports is business, what can you do.

[DMC]

dave the dope

enough said