Why the heck would anybody want Butler? Right now Butler holds 0% value to other teams and maybe 1% value to the spurs. I would not even pencil him for a roster spot yet for next season....
In any Bulls trade, realise they have two ty first rounders this year but a future pick fom the Bobcats that has value. I'd guess they'd rather move those than Taj Gibson, and would have value to other teams, possibly enough to move to 10 or so and snare Alec Burks or Klay Thompson.
Butler is injured but won't stay that way forever. He was a lottery pick until he got hurt according to many.
Parker and McDyess to Boston for Rajon Rondo and Jermaine O'neal
Why San Antonio do it
We get perhaps the best distributer in the nba at 11 assists per game and perhaps the best defensive PG with 2.3 steals per game. Rondo could help out our perimeter D and get RJ involved better then tony (if RJ is not traded which i hope he is) and he would probably make life a lot easier for Tim having an old school PG passing the rock to him in positions to score instead of tony looking to score first and Tim trying to clean up. Jermaine was hurt most of last year but the previous year he averaged 13pts 7reb and 2blocks, by far and away better then any big not named Tim Duncan on our roster. Yes i know he's a bit old and busted but whatever.
Why boston do it
Boston get a legit all star PG to make a nasty quartet of parker, allen, pierce and garnett and as they are about 20 million over the cap, yes 20 million, they save a fair chunk of $$ with McDyess retiring while still remaining strong contenders in the east.
Boston.......................San Antonio
C ..............................C Jermaine O'neal
PF Kevin Garnet ...........PF Tim Duncan
SF Paul Pierce .............SF RJ or F/A SF or RJ trade partner
SG Ray Allen ...............SG Manu Ginobili
PG Tony Parker ............PG Rajon Rondo
Both lineups would be pretty freakin nasty
Full blown re ed post.
I laughed.
And why do you two say that? At least give a reason whyFull blown re ed post.
Last edited by Russo21; 06-16-2011 at 10:58 PM.
Jermaine Oneal is washed up. Rondo is a better fit for the Celtics than the Spurs.
Yeah like i said o'neal is a bit busted. He hardly played this year but i can't remember what his injury was and why he missed so much time?
Positives for San Antonio
1. 2010 jermaine averaged 13 7 and 2, not bad at all if he could stay healthy and do that again. He is still younger then tim at 32 and bigger stronger and longer then blair splitter and bonner.
2. Rondo would help with perimeter D which is badly lacking for san antonio and his passing abilities could help Tim out and even help RJ return to some form of respectability.
A big if, but if jermaine could stay healthy it could be a nice lineup. High risk high reward trade.
Negatives for San Antonio
1. Jermaine could get injured at any moment and miss the season.
2. Simple, Rondo can't shoot. Opposing defenses could leave him open and collapse on tim and manu and make life harder for them instead of easier.
This is the think tank. No need to be politically incorrect and calling people retarted for voicing an oppinion.
Heard Utah are looking to deal Millsap and Harris if they can get a reasonable deal done.
Parker and Bonner/ Parker and Dice for Millsap and Harris would work out.
Duncan
Milsap 17pts 8 rebounds 1 block 1.5 steals
RJ/FA SF
Ginobili
Harris 16pts 7 assists 1 steal
Would be quite nice additions.
^ not bad. I'd still worry about the D, but that's an immediate PF upgrade.
No thanks
Wed have 2 Dejuan Blairs on the roster. Doesn't help with our size issues or defensive issues in the middle
I must admit, I'm new to this site but find it much like everywhere else - quite a few people w/ honestly good opinions that are based on knowledge of the game, study of prospects and at least a modi of understanding of how contracts, salary caps, bird rights, etc. work. Other opinions seemed to be more based out of emotion for one particular player or another, wishful desires or just plain lopsided deals that put the Spurs near the finals next year while dessimating the trade partner.
I think Spurs fans, all of us, need to realize that TP was right in his assessment - the Spurs are just about good enough to compete during the regular season (when you don't have to play the same team back to back to back) but aren't built to contend for a Championship (when your most expensive player is about 60% of what he used to be, you have no real defensive front line due to size/age and one injury keeps you from succeeding).
You can hate on me if you want, but the truth is the truth. Outside of trading for Dwight Howard, no one else is realistic possibility that might put the Spurs in the position to contend.
So, the only true WIN NEXT YEAR trade is:
Tony Parker, James Anderson, Tiago Splitter, this year's 1st round pick, next year's 1st round pick for Dwight Howard
There would probably be 3rd team involved for the Magic to offload Jameer nelson to make the cap #s right.
Far stretched but:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=44al2qr
Another piper:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3ozxll7
After that they could try trade RJ for a better defensive SF to fix the D. Ron Artest and Trevor Ariza come to mind. All three of them earn similar $ but artest and ariza's defense are light years better then RJ's.
and or
Boris Diaw and Kwame Brown are both free agents. If we snagged them they could fortify the defense inside and on the wing and add much needed size and bulk to the roster.
Duncan/ Kwame
Milsap/Splitter
Ariza or Artest/Diaw
Manu/Neal
Harris/Hill
Not a bad 10 man rotation
Something like that
Last edited by Russo21; 06-18-2011 at 08:23 AM.
Diaw is on the books for $9 mil this year..he is not a fa.
My bad. I thought he was an unrestricted F/A. cheers
Knicks, T-Wolves Discussing Trade Involving Douglas, Flynn
The Knicks have had preliminary discussions with the Minnesota Timberwolves about a trade for point guard Jonny Flynn.
No formal deal is in place, but the Knicks are debating whether Flynn, the sixth overall pick of the 2009 draft would be a viable option to back up Chauncey Billups for at least one season. Flynn has become expendable now that the Wolves have signed Spanish guard Ricky Rubio, who was taken one pick ahead of Flynn.
Toney Douglas would likely be the player traded for Flynn. However, Douglas is coming off major shoulder surgery, which in theory would make him tough to deal. But Flynn is a similar medical risk. The 6-foot guard out of Syracuse had hip surgery last July and was limited to 53 games in his second year, not including a stint in the D-League.
Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...#ixzz1Pm4mJ4by
Should've picked Brandon Jennings
Should've picked Stephen Curry
Elton Brand + Andre Iguodala + Jrue Holiday
for
Tony Parker + Richard Jefferson + Matt Boner + Antonio McDyess
Duncan
Brand 15pts 8reb 1.3 block 1.1 steals 51%
Iguodala 14 + pts 6reb 6 ast 1.5 steals 34% 3PFG
Ginobili
Holiday 14pts 4 reb 7 ast 38% 3PFG 1.5 steals
Duncan and Brand would make an all round fantastic tag team at C and PF with size and muscle, offense and defense, inside and outside game. One of the best interior combos in the game.
Ginobili and Iguodala would create havoc together offensively and defensively at SF and SG. Also one of the best wing combos in the game.
Holiday is young and steady coming into his 3rd year. Would have experienced options all around him to pass to or for defences to leave him open. Can shoot the three at a pretty good clip and be a pain in the ass on defense.
Our defense would be light years better then it was last year. Youth and experience. Offense and Defense. Outside and inside game. No holes or weaknesses anywhere that i can see.
Would be nice to see
NOTE: Yahoo reports that the 76ers want to deal Iguodala this week and the Clippers are the frontrunners with a Chris Kamaan swap.
Last edited by Russo21; 06-21-2011 at 12:57 AM.
3 team trade
Portland San Antonio and Utah
Portland get........... Utah Get..................San Antonio get
Tony Parker .............Richard Jefferson........Marcus Camby
Antonio McDyess ......Dejuan Blair...............Gerald Wallace
..............................Rudy Fernandez...........Devin Harris
That leaves San Antonio with
C Marcus Camby
PF Tim Duncan
SF Gerald Wallace
SG Manu Ginobili
PG Devin Harris
Not too bad. Portland get an all star PG and cap relief. Utah get a starting SF to replace AK47 if he leaves and a decent backup PF and SG. Spurs get bigger and better, more defensive and an adequate starting PG.
Last edited by Russo21; 06-21-2011 at 01:50 AM.
Anyone know when the trading period and free agency begin?
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