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so you believe you're the devil?
lol 5th year studentmavs>spurs:
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apparently it's your enrollment date.
Biblical flood? Impossible. Big ass boat? Not likely given the logistical improbabilities.
Easter bunny? Maybe.
The Bible is essential to modern Christianity (those who have to take another's word for it). The Bible cannot be edited, altered or corrected to make it "true" as it's the infallible word of the omnimax that is the Christian God. That means that, if a story in the Bible is false, the entirety of the book is false. You cannot put the book on the same grading scale with other books in literature and talk about the knowledge of the times to keep the book "honest" and ignore the fact it's full of falsehoods. Christians see the Bible as the word of an infallible God (though one who has regrets, oddly enough).
So no, you cannot both have the cake before you and have eaten it as well.
If real life worked like a Summer Blockbuster, then yes, the story of Noah's Ark is plausible.
Now fit millions of species of land animals on it.
(photo is real, btw, from a nice Dutchman who build a full size replica, really neat, IMO)
Thanks for the compliment.
Anytime you can irritate, annoy or piss off a lame, uninventive, unoriginal & stupid troll...well...you must be doing something right.
I chuckled at that one.
lmaoThanks for the compliment.
Anytime you can irritate, annoy or piss off a lame, uninventive, unoriginal & stupid troll...well...you must be doing something right.
still butthurt?
ok...I didn't mean it...
troll
sure you meant it.
that's why it was/is funny as .
one thing for sure is its never going to be known because an ark of that age would have long since deteriated... plus it would have been large enough to where the wooden beams would have been reused to construct houses/fortifications.
you're creating a straw man argument here. The essential elements of Christianity are Christ's sacrifice and His resurrection. There is no redemption without those elements, but there still would be without other parts of the Bible (like Adam & Eve, the flood, or the story of Abraham and Isaac).
Last edited by Oh, Gee!!; 06-17-2011 at 02:32 PM.
Agreed. I know quite a few people that claim to be "New Testament" Christians.
interesting.
So in Luke 2:45-47 when Jesus was in the temple, do you think he was discussing the New Testament with the elders?
How do you know of Christ's sacrifice and resurrection?
The Bible.
If the Bible contains stories that are presented as truth but are in reality false, how does that reflect upon the book itself? How does the resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth make any more sense than the great flood or the millions of animals on the ark?
Basically, once a witness is shown to be a liar, even factual testimony is thrown out.
If the Bible is not the word of God, what good is it? It's been manipulated by men for centuries, and at the Council of Nicea (CoN for short) they decided that 66 books were "real" and the others were "heretic gospels", and set out to destroy all others because they did not reflect the spirit that those chosen few decided was in keeping with God's wishes.
If the book has lies, the CoN were wrong. They were therefore not led by God to choose these books. The alternative is that God is intentionally ing with you, in which case he's just an uber-troll.
probably not since the Bible (old/new testaments) didn't exist the way we know of it. He was probably discussing law and custom with them.
I think the Old Testament (including the story of Noah) is valuable to the religious dogma of modern Christianity, but the inconsistencies of some of the stories therein are not fatal to the concept of Christianity as a redeeming force (i.e. eternal salvation). I am not advocating on behalf of Christianity at all, just pointing out the flaw in DMC's reasoning. DMC offers an all-or-nothing approach to Christianity based on his perception of flaws in Old Testament storytelling. I think one can take the Old Testament for what it is, and still be a believer in Christ.
Jesus practiced Jewish faith...
True or false
who cares!?
the Bible as "the infallible word of God" is one of the many aspects of modern Christianity, and is prevalent in Evangelical circles. Those people will argue against any and all scientific data to make the world fit into their understanding of the Bible and Christianity. Don't let those people speak for all Christians, please.
Again you are presenting an all-or-nothing argument. Some parts of the Bible could be factually incorrect and the politics of inclusion or exclusion of certain texts could be flawed, but it wouldn't change the actual point of Christianity: that Christ died for our sins. That is the one thing that is necessary for Christianity.Basically, once a witness is shown to be a liar, even factual testimony is thrown out.
If the Bible is not the word of God, what good is it? It's been manipulated by men for centuries, and at the Council of Nicea (CoN for short) they decided that 66 books were "real" and the others were "heretic gospels", and set out to destroy all others because they did not reflect the spirit that those chosen few decided was in keeping with God's wishes.
If the book has lies, the CoN were wrong. They were therefore not led by God to choose these books. The alternative is that God is intentionally ing with you, in which case he's just an uber-troll.
I'm not telling you it's true and that you should believe it; I'm simply stating that it's irrelevant whether the story of Noah is false or grossly exaggerated. You turned the improbability of Noah's ark into an attack on Christianity itself, and proclaimed it the death knell basically. It's a stupid argument, and you're a stupid person.
probably
me.
why do you care who cares?
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