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    Why are we still talking about this guy? The Spurs decided not to draft this guy 5 pages ago.
    Is that why they worked him out twice?

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    , couldn't wait a couple more days until the draft before being himself...

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    These guys should save their anger and aggression for the hardwood.

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    although his choice of words points to him fitting right in with the NBA

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    As talented as Tyler is, he's still very much an unknown. Still, I just think that his baggage may present too much of a risk for the Spurs to ever feel comfortable drafting him. Of course, I could very well be wrong, but I just can't see it.

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    As talented as Tyler is, he's still very much an unknown. Still, I just think that his baggage may present too much of a risk for the Spurs to ever feel comfortable drafting him. Of course, I could very well be wrong, but I just can't see it.
    This kid does not need a guranteed contract from a 1st rd pick..Early 2nd rd he is no brainer with very little risk, but a player like Tyler with $ in the bank has eddy curry's work ethic written all over him. No thanks

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    This kid does not need a guranteed contract from a 1st rd pick..Early 2nd rd he is no brainer with very little risk, but a player like Tyler with $ in the bank has eddy curry's work ethic written all over him. No thanks
    At 29 his guaranteed contract would be around $880,000 in year 1; $950,000 in year 2; and a team option for year 3 around $1,080,000. You are not exactly talking about Eddie Curry money here. I really like this kid here. If he had gone the traditional route I bet he is a top 10 pick this year. At 29 it is a crapshoot anyway. He has the physical tools to be a very good player in this league. I think it is worth the gamble that the Spurs way could rub off on him and he would end up as the steal of the draft. If not, you cut him loose in 2 years and have less than $2 million invested.

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    At 29 his guaranteed contract would be around $880,000 in year 1; $950,000 in year 2; and a team option for year 3 around $1,080,000. You are not exactly talking about Eddie Curry money here. I really like this kid here. If he had gone the traditional route I bet he is a top 10 pick this year. At 29 it is a crapshoot anyway. He has the physical tools to be a very good player in this league. I think it is worth the gamble that the Spurs way could rub off on him and he would end up as the steal of the draft. If not, you cut him loose in 2 years and have less than $2 million invested.
    I think any guaranteed money is probably a bad thing. This is a kid that needs to have his ego checked in a major way and be broken down and then rebuilt. Much easier job if he's on a second round non guaranteed deal with the threat of his next paycheck evaporating.

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    I think any guaranteed money is probably a bad thing. This is a kid that needs to have his ego checked in a major way and be broken down and then rebuilt. Much easier job if he's on a second round non guaranteed deal with the threat of his next paycheck evaporating.
    With his athletism, size and skill set he is the one player at 29 that could be a top 5 center in the league at some point. Believe me playing against the Association will check his ego in a major way. This would be a low risk, high reward pick. Think back to when you were in college and then when you were 25--big difference in at ude. The Spurs culture has a way getting the desired result.

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    from all players he is the most safe to say will not going to the Spurs, since when our team draft player who his biggest problem is luck of desire, heart and will?

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    All I can think of is Jackie Butler. An ill mannered Jackie Butler, but Jackie Butler 2.0 nonetheless
    If taken his contract wouldn't be that onerous...
    Still- I say pass

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    If you want this type of guy just go sign Sean Williams. He's available and just as much a headcase. Then you still have your pick left over.

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    Sean Williams isn't 6'11" 260 with a 7'6" wingspan at 19 years old. And again, the kid is 19 years old! He's supposed to be immature.
    Good Christ. How many 19 year olds do you know who act like children?

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    And a big difference in giving a non-professional, cancerous personality millions of dollars and the promise of a slot on your team. No thanks.

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    And a big difference in giving a non-professional, cancerous personality millions of dollars and the promise of a slot on your team. No thanks.
    What kind of players are you expecting at the bottom of the 1st round? The kid made some boneheaded decisions, and probably got some bad advice from his peers. But he was an 18 year old kid at the time. Kids make mistakes. Tyler didn't kill anybody, did he? He showed some nice potential at the NBA Combine, and from listening to Tyler talking with reporters, hes grown up a bit. If Tyler checks out with the Spur's FO, and scouts, I have no problem with the Spurs drafting Tyler.

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    This is around what I have been saying. Tyreeke Evans was the get away driver in a murder and that never became an issue. Then there is the question of what happens if this kid stayed in the United States and played well in the NCAA? Maybe he would go top 10? If DeMarcus Cousins didn't go to college then he might have been a second round pick. Tyler's talent, size, youth and athletic ability are hard to come by at pick 29. Maturity issues come in all ages.
    I disagree. If you look at the # of "kids" drafted below the age of 21 (there's at least 5-10 every year), very few have had the past of Tyler. There's a difference between being immature (and doing something stupid) and thinking you're the next Jordan so that you decide to forego your senior HS basketball season to go overseas, get there, get kicked off the team, go to a different overseas team and the entire time you average less than 10 pts and 6 rebs a game. As a AAU basketball coach, I see these types all the time - most of which are gas station attendants or pizza delivery drivers now. Some kids you just can't seem to get through to enough to so that they can position themselves to be able to display their talents. Tyler is one of these kids and his talents, although good, aren't good enough to put up w/ the rest of him. Just imagine how he'll be w/ $1 million (and still underage but wanting to do things as an adult).

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    What kind of players are you expecting at the bottom of the 1st round?
    I'm pretty sure you've read Jimmy Butler's story, so I'll let you reconsider this comment.

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    Jimmy Butler would be an excellent pick for the Spurs @ 29 IMO.

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    The main difference between this (jerk) kid and Jennings is that Jennings learnt to deal with coaches authority and stay somehow humble, whereas Tyler just totally insulted an experimented european coach accusing him of knowing absolutely nothing about basketball. (with Tyler beeing absolutely raw raw raw and knowing next to nothing about bb and tactics...).
    Far to huge ego, full of himself and not able to withstand critics...
    How do you think he will able to cope with Pop or guys like Duncan, Gino or TP...
    He just needs to get sacked out of the draft in order to learn life... (so bad that it won't happen). Moreover, how teams are going to handle his über cancerous entourage?

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    So this guy has off the court issues with a crappy at ude and has done nothing significant on the court. I don't get at all why people are interested in drafting him. If you just want to draft a physical specimen, wait until #59 and pick Bangaly Fofana.

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    So this guy has off the court issues with a crappy at ude and has done nothing significant on the court. I don't get at all why people are interested in drafting him.
    It's the same force that gets people every offseason demanding the Spurs trade for JR Smith. They get enamored by dynamic athleticism and flashy plays and forget (or never really understood) the vast intangibles it requires to put a very good team together, from the home, to the locker room, to the court.

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    http://thatnbalotterypick.blogspot.c...-who-nate.html

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    He might barely know that pop one day lead the teams to NBA le at this rate...



    To counter that argument, do you think he would accuse Pop of not knowing anything about basketball?
    Well looks like a lot around this do think so...
    So could be the same with Tyler...

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    When you have the size, skills, and athletism this kid has available at the bottom of the draft (assuming he is) I just don't see how you pass on him. Who else in this draft that you can get at pick 29 can you get that has the potential 10 years from now being one of the top 3 players in the draft? He has the potential IMO to be a Bynum type player. Those are the types of chances you take at pick 29.

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