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My favorite player in this draft.
Height: 6-0
Weight: 180 lbs
Birthday: 05/08/1990
College: Connecticut
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My favorite player in this draft.
I was thinking the same thing earlier today. Good point!
yes, good point.
but I don't see Walker and Knight in the same tier like Irving. no guarantee that Irving will better than the other two, but his upside is in the CP3 tier, while Walker and knight are rather Harris/Nelson level. (good, maybe even one time all star, not all NBA level)
Cavs need a new franchise player. Williams isn't IMO. Irving might be.
(this would remind me about 2005, when Hawks passed on Paul for Marvin Williams. Derrick Williams will be better than Marvin, but it's a similar situation and similar players)
btw. there will some dealing of #2,#3,and #4 go on anyhow.
maybe some other teams prepare exactly for this situation: Cavs pick Williams, that moment some team will jump in and offer a nice package for the #2 pick to the Wolves. so Irving will never fall to #4.
Irving is a far better ballhandler than the other two and he finishes better with contact. He's 2" taller than Walker and quicker than Knight. Irving is by far the best perimeter shooter of the three. He's already better than Walker and is only 19. Walker is 22 and probably isn't going to get a lot better than he is already. Kemba Walker is a volume shooter in college. You think he's going to become efficient in the NBA when he's alreafy running out the shot clock and shooting contested jumpers against NCAA defenses? I think it's lunacy to lump Irving, Knight, and Walker together as if they're similar players. Irving is a total package who might become really good. Knight is a huge question mark since his whole career before Kentucky was playing the Austin Rivers role of carrying the team and doing all the scoring. Maybe he never breaks out of that 2-guard in a PG's body, but his combination of talent, NBA size, and decent athleticism makes him worth a gamble; especially in a draft with this weak of a talent pool.
agree. Irving has the whole package, including that "natural born leader" thing. that's the point.
means his upside is Chris Paul, but also that his downside still will be a pretty high level player.
Both DX situational stats analysis(Using Synergy sports data) and the Hollinger ratings for Draft prospects have come out in the last few days. Both sets love Kyrie Irving as an option (and both love Derrick Williams, which isn't really suprising) using turnover rate, TS%, turnover rate etc. I hadn't realised how dominant Kyrie Irving is in the Pick and Roll ,his points per possesion is insane(1.438, next closest is below 1). Given the amount of Pick and Roll in the NBA, That is a huge thing, if you can be that efficient on the PnR, you can get easy points. I don't think he's as good as Paul, and Derrick Williams has something other than potential over Marvin, but I think given the Bigs remaining(At a minimum, Kanter of Jonas will be there), mean he should go 1. Derrick Williams has a superior body of work, but his future is as a 4 and he's a touch undersized for that, though he'll probably be a good enough rebounder.
I'd take Irving # overall if I were the Cavs. They have decent PG's there at the moment(Baron, Sessions) but it's not like he'd be the missing piece to a contender, so just load up on players to build around when you plan on being good(in 3 years or so.)
No doubt Irving and Tristan Thompson have the greatest potential, in my book, but Kemba has an amazing compe iveness that stands out. You want the ball in his hands in the 4th quarter.
don#t get me wrong, Kemba is a good player and I like him. but in a "standard" draft, he likely wouldn't even be projected in the lottery.
talking about potential, I rank Valanciunas #2. upside is really high. some made the Pau comparison. pretty accurate IMO.
I'm never a fan when in the first 2 or 3 attributes people give when breaking down a player is that "He's a winner/leader", which in the media is happening with Walker. , Jonny Flynn was a winner/leader. Being a winner/leader in college is good for college, but it shouldn't be in the first handful of things you get listed on why he's good for the NBA. Usually these winner types go to bad teams where their leadership and winning persona won't mean jack on an awful team. Mateen Cleaves may have been a winner, Ed O'Bannon may have been a winner who would lead in the locker room, but winning leadership in college is meaningless in the pros.
The experts have their take on Walker. My feelings about Walker aren't founded on "winner/leader". He's my favorite player in this draft because of his compe iveness and productivity, especially when the ball is in his hands in crunch time. Kemba is a cut above. He gets results.
Some have him dropping in the mocks badly if he gets past the first 10 picks. Who knows.
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Kemba Walker could be the player dropping in lottery, especially because sources say Toronto (5th pick) and Detroit (8th) will pass on him.
Well if the Spurs rumors about trading TP are true, this guy might be a possibility.
Move TP, draft Kemba and add other pieces from the trade.
Tony Parker for a 6'0" shooting guard with little potential? me if that's true.
I agree
Agreed with this.
(Not saying I think trading Parker for him straight up is smart obv.)
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