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    you might trade manu to get rid of jefferson
    manu is always hurt in playoffs

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    If they trade Parker for anything short of the #1 pick to get Irving then I'm going to find R.C. Buford and have him raped.

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    Just my opinion. I'm sure most will get a giggle out of that. Isn't Calderon the dude that's throwing up 50-40-90 seasons for them? Or do I have him mistaken for someone else?

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    First, Can Toronto absorb Tonys contract from the Bosh Trade exception? Second, If they could wouldn't that make sense to get like maybe Amir Johnson or Ed Davis, and the # 5 Pick, for Tony make sense? Maybe draft a SF or PG with the #5. With that available cap space could we make like a run at Greg Oden, Nene, or Chandler? If possible I would do that in a heartbeat.

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    Not sure if the Spurs pull the trigger, but if they get the 5th pick from Sacramento, I have no doubts that it's Vesely who they will select.

    The kid is 6'11 and is not your typical Euro. He's got an aggressive offensive game, and he played with Partizan, which is a really good club out in Belgrade.
    I'm with you. If they're going up that high, Vessly would be an outstanding target. Of course, he doesn't have much of a perimeter game, which probably hurts him in Pop's eyes and his open-court skills probably wouldn't match the Spurs. You simply could expect this kid to stand in the corners and shoot 3-balls. He too athletic for that and he shouldn't be converted into a spot-up shooter the way they've tried to do with RJ. It would be a freaking waste.

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    I jokingly said to a friend that punishment for Tony saying the Spurs are done will be shipped to Minny. That would be funny.
    so spurs get the draft pick and their point guard or rubio?
    because hill is NO ing point guard


    trading tp is ok if you get more then = value for him

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    I am stunned. Tony Parker may well be the Spurs' best trade asset, but he was the best player in the last few months of last season, barring the Playoffs against Memphis. He played very very well after his 2009-10 season where he was badly injured most season.

    It would have made sense to trade Parker if we were getting a really good upgrade at some positions - PF/C/SF, but that does not seem to be the case with these proposed trades with the Kings/Raptors.

    I always thought there was a chance for the Spurs to build around Parker as he was the youngest of the Chief Trio. If what Woj reports is true, the Spurs are doing a complete overhaul of their long term plans. And in my opinion, not for the better if things are as it is according to Adrian Woj.

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    If Minny were willing to trade Rubio and the second pick for Parker and 29th, I would be fine with that.
    Utterly crazy in my opinion. Parker is among Top 6 of PGs in the league (after CP3, DWill, Rondo, DRose, Nash). Trading him for two rookies would be stupid.

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    oh boy.

    if they really end up trading him, they better get some real value in return. would hate to see Parker leave for only a pick. and I hope it doesn't become a desperate situation, because now that it's in the public that they are heavily considering trading him it will obviously make him feel less welcomed. weird scenario, but it...the Spurs haven't made any drastic changes in forever, I'm not totally opposed to some exciting and productive change.

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    if the Spurs trade Parker to Sacramento . . .

    They can get Beno back!

    Behold! The Prodigal Taco returns!


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    If Minny were willing to trade Rubio and the second pick for Parker and 29th, I would be fine with that.
    There is no way they do that. They are all about Rubio and have to at least give him a chance.

    I know you were half joking when you said "wait until you see what RC has for you", but is this on your radar?

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    .the Spurs haven't made any drastic changes in forever, I'm not totally opposed to some exciting and productive change.
    Any changes the Spurs have to make are those which make them contenders for the championship. Trading Parker for rookies and chump change certainly does not take them any further in that direction.

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    If Minny were willing to trade Rubio and the second pick for Parker and 29th, I would be fine with that.
    That trade would be insane. Derrick Williams and The Spanish Hype Machine would make us pretty interesting in 2012.

    So they can sign another Rasho Nesterovic? San Antonio the city sucks in the eyes of NBA players: no big endorsement opportunities, no good clubs, no beach, no ESPN kissing your ass all day. The draft is how the Spurs need to build, but not this one.
    Baseline telling it like it is. I remember the only time I was truly ecstatic about a FA signing was Mike Finley in August 2005. We're basically left to over the hill vets or journeymen. Sometimes they work out - SJax, JJax, Neal.

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    That is exactly what I said. The priority in any trade involving TP is getting back equal value for TP. Getting the trading team to take RJ is secondary.

    You should go back and read what was said before because you are the one who is "not getting it". Don't use my quote to springboard your point when you have no ing clue what I am talking about. Especially when the point you are trying to make has already been discussed . . . thoroughly.
    It has been discussed, and you keep saying that you don't trade Parker just to get rid of Jefferson. With this draft, if you're trading Parker for a pick (no matter how high it is), you better be damn sure Jefferson goes with him. When a pick is involved, trading Jefferson is not secondary, it's mandatory. Otherwise no trade.

    But before you say it, you don't just trade Parker if a team wants Jefferson. You better be getting good value for Parker. Just make sure Jefferson goes with him.

    You can claim I'm asking for too much from the other team, but a draft pick in this draft is not going to cut it at all for just Parker, unless the pick is traded for Jefferson straight up. Not saying that that's what should happen, but rather that the value in this draft is that bad imo.

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    Everyone is tradeable for the right price. It's a matter of gauging what that price is. What do people realistically expect?

    It will be tough to trade TP for what we as Spurs fans perceive as fair.

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    If Jefferson returns a Spur and Parker doesn't, it will inevitably be the worst offseason in ages.

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    Peter Holt is one of the 'poorest' owners in the NBA worth about 80 million 'only'

    Maybe the last few years paying such huge salary to Duncan tony and manu, and the piece of we know as RJ really affected his pockets more then we know? He went deep into luxury tax territory taking on dip RJ.

    I hope Peter isn't in any trouble financially.
    Peter Holt is one of many people who own the Spurs.

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    Tony can take a hike anytime for all i care.. He played well at times but ultimately rode Duncan to 3 rings..

    Later Tony..

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    The only reason the Spurs would deal Tony for players with unknown value is if they truly believe what Tony said to the French media. It would be their way of trying to prepare for life without Duncan. Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense.

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    I think I'd take a flyer on Rubio if the Spurs are intent on making Hill the starting PG next season. But I'm not so sure I'd want Rubio as a starting PG. Pairing Rubio with Gino should help Rubio progress, and he is a good passer to put alongside Gino.

    But, Minny is not trading Rubio, so that's not really a scenario that needs to be discussed further.

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    Any changes the Spurs have to make are those which make them contenders for the championship. Trading Parker for rookies and chump change certainly does not take them any further in that direction.
    I agree...I would only consider it if RJ is also part of the package and it brings the #1 or 2 draft pick AND another solid role player, equivalent or near to RJ in contract/value but a better fit, with some balls.


    If they're only getting younger to get younger, they might as well trade Ginobili as well.

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    Tony can take a hike anytime for all i care.. He played well at times but ultimately rode Duncan to 3 rings..

    Later Tony..
    What a joke you are.

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    there is no way he gets traded, this is bs. after everyone thinking he was gonna leave to ny or whatever and he got rid of that mexican chick and hes still here?

    george hill is the one who is possibly getting traded.

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    If Jefferson returns a Spur and Parker doesn't, it will inevitably be the worst offseason in ages.
    Hence why I'd tell a team that if they want to offer a lottery pick for Tony, then they'd need to offer up a good to near all star big man in return, or take Jefferson as part of the deal. Picks just aren't going to cut it. The talent isn't there.

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    Tony can take a hike anytime for all i care.. He played well at times but ultimately rode Duncan to 3 rings..

    Later Tony..
    Are you ing re ed?

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