Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

[baseline bum]

Hill is getting groomed as a PG by the Spurs, regardless of Spurstalk's consensus that "he's a SG". The sooner yall s accept that the sooner yall will realize that trading Parker makes alot more sense than trading Hill, especially for a late lottery pick. If the FO believes the Big 3 can no longer win les they can either:

1. Rebuild. Duncan & Gino seem to be locks to retire as Spurs, so that leaves Parker as the lone big contract with value (noone wants RJ).

or

2.Make a move. And considering the fact that Parker's value is alot higher than Hill's...that would be the only move that could possibly improve this team significantly. Hill isnt enough to net us someone that might put us over the top.

If you deal either of them you deal Parker, its the best move. Otherwise stay pat. Hill shouldnt go anywhere imo.

I'm not opposed to trading Parker, but I'd much rather do it next year when there are some really good prospects at the 4 and 3. A top 10 pick would be huge next season, and I'd love for the Spurs to pick one off by offering Tony to a team that wanted to be in the playoffs for 2012-13. Hill is a streak scorer and that's about it. He can't run an offense. He's an enormous defensive liability. His game has already plateaued and the Spurs are in a lot of trouble if he's the point guard of the future. He reminds Antonio Daniels without the hops.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Tony Parker's trade value is never going to be higher than it is right now. He is under 30 and absolutely electric on the court. He is fun to watch and can score against most defenses in this league with ease.

He is also a PG whose game is mostly based on being the quickest athlete on the court. Its more than that I know but when he starts to lose a step, he is going to pull a Elton Brand. Last year he seemed to overrely on his ability to get into the paint and his jumper was spotty at best.

You cannot move Duncan and Manu. No value there as both are damaged goods. Hill is still in his early twenties. Three years from now, he can still be a major contributor. At that same time, Tony would be on the downward track.

If they are rebuilding they absolutely should move on any good offer for Parker.

[baseline bum]

Honestly, the best the Spurs can do is trade Parker and Anderson for Holliday and Iguodala. Two proven to be good players. Iggy being the best defender in the league and Holiday being one of the better low value high potential point guards.

Pipe dream, but I wish it could be Holiday and Thaddeus. I'm not so sure I'd want to trade Iguodala if I'm Philly and can get him running with Tony. Still, Young is way too good to not be starting next season, and you can't give up on Turner yet with all he showed at Ohio State.

[baseline bum]

Tony Parker's trade value is never going to be higher than it is right now. He is under 30 and absolutely electric on the court. He is fun to watch and can score against most defenses in this league with ease.

He is also a PG whose game is mostly based on being the quickest athlete on the court. Its more than that I know but when he starts to lose a step, he is going to pull a Elton Brand. Last year he seemed to overrely on his ability to get into the paint and his jumper was spotty at best.

You cannot move Duncan and Manu. No value there as both are damaged goods. Hill is still in his early twenties. Three years from now, he can still be a major contributor. At that same time, Tony would be on the downward track.

If they are rebuilding they absolutely should move on any good offer for Parker.

What would you consider a good offer for Parker? Sacramento's crap and the #7 makes me want to puke.

[itzsoweezee]

This is one of the worst drafts in years. There's no trade package in this draft worth giving up TP for. And you don't trade Hill for some late lottery pick. It's that weak of a draft. They should keep Parker for now and trade Hill for a SF like Paul George or a big like Taj Gibson.

This is on point. I guess it remains to be seen, however, whether Popovich is willing to be this rational. Will his ego get in the way and force some ridiculous lopsided trade? He seems desperate for a scapegoat for the playoff flameout.

[024]

trading parker better also ship jefferson out. seriously. get jefferson off this team.

[joshdaboss]

I'd pull this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3skv2lo

Leaves us with:

Calderon/Hill
Manu/Anderson
#5 Pick/Kleza
Duncan/Blair
Andrea/Splitter

This is the best realistic trade idea I've seen so far, besides Odom and Brown for him, but I don't think the Lakers are going to make that type of move.

[baseline bum]

The problem with Iggy (and Parker for this same matter) is that he is too old. They have a good group of kids in their early 20s. They are a big time player away from being really good. Too bad that both Igoudala and Brand's salaries are holding them back. It would be nice to move either or both of those, but the 6ers aren't trading Iggy away for nothing.

The Sixers are going to be really interesting over the next few years; especially if Turner eventually pans out for them.

[Wu36]

Hill is nothing special and supposedly the team loves James Anderson anyways (at least according to Chad Ford). Hill, Anderson, and Neal give this team three backup shooting guards. How many do you really need?

Agree. But how many role players in general does a team need? Hill, Blair, Anderson, Neal, Bonner, RJ, Splitter, Butler(maybe), plus 5th or 7th pick, along with one or two added players in a TP trade. Thats alot of role players with a lack of time to develope. If TP is traded like this it better be the first of two or three trades. Not enough time on the court for Timmy, Manu and 10/11 maybes

[joshdaboss]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3ugjtp7

+ their 1st rounder. What say you? I think they reject it, but I take it if I'm the Spurs, without a doubt.

[Fireball]

I really do not know what to make out of it. All the realistic trade options will not change the chances of the Spurs winning another le. On the one hand I like TP, but on the other hand I think its time for something new and only breaking up the Big Three qualifies as something new. I will not speculate and just wait what happens thursday night .... and of course hope there is no lockout!

[TJastal]

Tony Parker's trade value is never going to be higher than it is right now. He is under 30 and absolutely electric on the court. He is fun to watch and can score against most defenses in this league with ease.

He is also a PG whose game is mostly based on being the quickest athlete on the court. Its more than that I know but when he starts to lose a step, he is going to pull a Elton Brand. Last year he seemed to overrely on his ability to get into the paint and his jumper was spotty at best.

You cannot move Duncan and Manu. No value there as both are damaged goods. Hill is still in his early twenties. Three years from now, he can still be a major contributor. At that same time, Tony would be on the downward track.

If they are rebuilding they absolutely should move on any good offer for Parker.

+1

Refreshing to actually find a lucid thought in a thread polluted with literally 100's of whining Parker homers.

Parker needs to be traded now while the spurs can still net a decent player + pick, he should have been traded two years ago when he would have yielded an all star level big man or small forward.

[jesterbobman]

Would a three team trade based around parker to someone(Sacramento etc), Later pick and pieces to Minny(e.g., Thompson), Derrick Williams to us, then use trade exception to add a PG to start for us, and MLE for a decent Centre(Or, TE for a centre MLE for a PG.)
E.g, trade for Ramon Sessions to play 20min a game(probably available if Cavs take Irving as he's the 3rd PG), and then a Centre/PF with the MLE, knowing Splitter & Duncan will take most of the Centre Minutes, and Williams as a 4/3 Combo guy. We know the Spurs are efficient offensively with a shooting big, and Derrick Williams is a boost over Bonner in all around play. Not ideal, But probably I'd take Sessions, Williams and saving 2m a year for Parker.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
If Spurs deal Tony Parker to Kings for 7th pick, expect Omri Caspi to be part of package, sources say. RC Buford has been long fond of him.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Kings coaching staff, in win-now mode to stay employed, are fully behind trading the 7th pick for an established player, sources say.

[jiggy_55]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
If Spurs deal Tony Parker to Kings for 7th pick, expect Omri Caspi to be part of package, sources say. RC Buford has been long fond of him.

I just came here to write this. This is shocking to be honest. Parker for 7th pick and Casspi? Could that be the deal? Very bad deal

[Wu36]

If they trade TP for an early pick it better not be Jimmer they draft.

[TJastal]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
If Spurs deal Tony Parker to Kings for 7th pick, expect Omri Caspi to be part of package, sources say. RC Buford has been long fond of him.

Getting Casspi + 7th pick for unloading Parker would be pure heaven. I think I'd do a frickin dance out on main street if this happened.

[jiggy_55]

Could this really be happening? Wojnarowski and Yahoo are usually quite reliable when it comes to rumors. He seems to have some true inside information to report such news for the Spurs.

[joshdaboss]

Casspi and Jason Thompson both suck ass. Casspi is WAY worse than Jefferson. Please, God, don't let them be part of any deal.

[lurker23]

One thing that's worth noting is that if the Spurs are even 1% CONSIDERING this, then there's almost certainly someone in the lottery they really like.

With team needs, it's hard to imagine it's not a big man. Personally, my money is on either Jan Vesely or Tristan Thompson. Kanter is likely gone before 5 or 7, and it's hard to imagine Morris or Biyombo as IMMEDIATE impact players.

However, if this is the Spurs version of blowing things up and planning primarily for the future, my money would be on Jonas Valanciunas.

[baseline bum]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
If Spurs deal Tony Parker to Kings for 7th pick, expect Omri Caspi to be part of package, sources say. RC Buford has been long fond of him.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Kings coaching staff, in win-now mode to stay employed, are fully behind trading the 7th pick for an established player, sources say.

that . If you're gonna trade Parker, do it with Toronto and at least get Ed Davis and the higher pick. With Dalembert a free agent, Sacramento has nothing interesting outside of 'Reke and Cousins to offer, and no way they dump them.

[jesterbobman]

If you got Casspi and 7, you'd have a ~ 12million dollar trade exception, and then could use that to get another player. It'd have to be a salary dump of sorts, but a trade would involve that trade exception aswell.

[TJastal]

Casspi and Jason Thompson both suck ass. Casspi is WAY worse than Jefferson. Please, God, don't let them be part of any deal.

Casspi just turned 23 today. There's no way he can be worse than 31 year old Jefferson. He's 2 inches taller @ 6'9", younger, more athletic and always hustles and rebounds the basketball. He'd be absolutely perfect starting next to Manu & George Hill in the starting lineup.

[baseline bum]

If you got Casspi and 7, you'd have a ~ 12million dollar trade exception, and then could use that to get another player. It'd have to be a salary dump of sorts, but a trade would involve that trade exception aswell.

Sweet... the Spurs could get a has-been like Baron Davis.

[baseline bum]

Casspi just turned 23 today. There's no way he can be worse than 31 year old Jefferson. He's 2 inches taller @ 6'9", younger, more athletic and always hustles and rebounds the basketball. He'd be absolutely perfect starting next to Manu & George Hill in the starting lineup.

It would be awesome for tanking, but then you might as well dump Ginobili too.