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    No way Stein is right.

    Spurs would be beyond stupid to package RJ with Tony for multiple of reasons:

    1) Spurs wouldn't get fair value back (talent-wise) in return for their best trading asset (Parker). Such a move would give the Spurs an average team that wouldn't be able to compete for a le and at the same time they wouldn't be worthy of a relevant lottery selection in the up-coming draft. Putting the franchise in irrelevant limbo.

    2) Freeing up cap space for the summer of 2012 or 2013 really is a waste! For the simple fact that no premiere top-tier free agent would sign with San Antonio.

    The only "free agent" situation that can come out of a cap freeing move (trading Tony and RJ together to free up future cap space) is this:

    -Overpaying a middle tier free agent come summer of 2012 or 2013 because the Spurs will be desperate to fill any relevant roster spot. They already did that with R.J. So basically they would be attaching an R.J to their best trading asset this year to free up future cap space, which would only lead to signing another R.J type come 2012 or 2013. That makes no sense and that is the reality.

    That is why I think Spurs should try to package Hill and or Blair ONLY with RJ to try to get rid of him. If they can't, then I'd just hold on to him til the last year of his contract then trade him away to any team who wants to clear 10-11 million off the books the following year (worst-case scenario). **At the end of every month , I'd be calling around for a taker on R.J til then obviously.

    I really really hope Stein isn't right.

    Attaching the worst trading asset on the team to the best trading asset is beyond stupid, especially when your team just fielded a 61 win season.
    Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 06-22-2011 at 11:28 AM.

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    this all could be a smokescreen and manu could be the one that is traded.....
    spurs make trades with people not mentioned

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    Please don't trade Parker. :/

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    Does anyone truly believe that George Hill is ready to play PG for this team? Has there been any evidence to support that notion? It's amazing that all national pundits and analysts tout Hill as "ready to step in" for Tony at PG. I'm thinking to myself, "have any of you actually watched an entire Spurs game?"
    Maybe they get Kemba Walker with the #7 draft pick and a big Cousins/Thompson for parker.

    Or work out a 3 team trade involving Sac and Toronto. Shipping out parker with Jefferson and getting Bargnani along with the #5-(take Walker) and a big from Sac.Thompson/Cousins.

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    parker for bosh ?

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    this all could be a smokescreen and manu could be the one that is traded.....
    spurs make trades with people not mentioned


    Manu IS the Spurs. No way in he gets traded.

    Parker gave up on the team and the team gave up on him. He is a goner.

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    I say we trade TP for D Howard or D Rose..

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    If you can get someone good in the draft why not take a chance? Spurs are never winning a le with Tony as a franchise player. Plus he is a risk to get hurt or play poorly going forward due to his play for France.. I'm not saying Tony has not been a good Spur, of course he has but it might be time to move on. His comments about "Spurs being done" sounded like he was all ready to go..
    If Kobe said what Tony said it would be all over ESPN for a week.. RC Buford and Pop both seem pissed off about it..
    Agreed. as a Spurs fan I'm pissed at Tony Parker. Sexting nonsense, wanting to join NYC, playing badly in the playoffs against Mike Conley, his lack of a consistent midrange/3 point shot, lacking defense, etc.

    He's been garbage in the playoffs especially the last run: 31 assists to 20 turnovers is not good. Its underrated just how poor of a playmaker, shooter, leader, etc Parker can be. Trade his ass for something that makes sense.

    Parker has declined significantly especially with Duncan playing less minutes and declining himself.

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    Manu IS the Spurs. No way in he gets traded.

    Parker gave up on the team and the team gave up on him. He is a goner.
    manu is done
    can not even be healthy in playoffs so what is the point of him
    he played less minutes this year to

    and quit blaming pop for playing him he benched him more then manu liked


    right now manu is kissing spurs ass
    parker is telling spurs what it is and what most feel here
    manu is being stupid

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    Parker + to Cleveland for Varejao and BDiddy. Do it Ferry

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    you do realize spurs were going to let David Robinson Walk
    HE WAS THE SPURS

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    you trade parker
    then you trade manu for picks
    or chandler

    there is talk that wilson chandler does not want to be in denver
    doing a sign and trade for chandler for manu would be great
    karl LOVES MANU

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    i wonder if t-back would join the spurs? play pg...lol

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    Holy are there suddenly some horrible ideas.

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    Top 5 ? Give me a break. I'm a fan, but thats over the top.
    3 Spurs are clearly better than Parker with Ice, Robinson and Duncan. Parker is 4th or 5th depending if you consider him better or not than Manu.

    So what is your top 5?

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    Does anyone truly believe that George Hill is ready to play PG for this team? Has there been any evidence to support that notion? It's amazing that all national pundits and analysts tout Hill as "ready to step in" for Tony at PG. I'm thinking to myself, "have any of you actually watched an entire Spurs game?"
    This.

    If Parker is traded, it needs to be for another veteran PG plus a 1-5 pick.......at the very least.

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    If you can get someone good in the draft why not take a chance? Spurs are never winning a le with Tony as a franchise player. Plus he is a risk to get hurt or play poorly going forward due to his play for France.. I'm not saying Tony has not been a good Spur, of course he has but it might be time to move on. His comments about "Spurs being done" sounded like he was all ready to go..
    Getting something good in this draft seems quite hard to do.

    I'm not against trading Parker to start rebuilding the team but it should then be a full rebuilding process.

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    manu is done
    can not even be healthy in playoffs so what is the point of him
    he played less minutes this year to

    and quit blaming pop for playing him he benched him more then manu liked


    right now manu is kissing spurs ass
    parker is telling spurs what it is and what most feel here
    manu is being stupid
    It's better to move Manu now while he still has some value before his last years on the contract where he will be way over paid for the type of player he will be.

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    Top 5 ? Give me a break. I'm a fan, but thats over the top.
    only the french fans on this site think his top 5 ever to wear the black and silver...lol
    You've got Timmy, Robinson, Ice.......

    And Manu presumably. Only one more to bump him out. We're all ears.

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    I wonder what Timmy thinks of the whole situation. You have to assume that they'd have talked to him about it before any deals were considered. Tim Duncan always has seemed an extremely pragmatic individual. I would not be surprised at all if he was okay with the possibility of trading TP. He seems to be a man of moderately high (not D-Rob high, but still) integrity and was probably not pleased by TP's actions in the last year and a half.

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    JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald



    Spurs' R.C. Buford, on Tony Parker trade rumors: "We're not shopping anyone." bit.ly/jBkUWV


    Via Twitter. So much for that.

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    I wonder what Timmy thinks of the whole situation. You have to assume that they'd have talked to him about it before any deals were considered. Tim Duncan always has seemed an extremely pragmatic individual. I would not be surprised at all if he was okay with the possibility of trading TP. He seems to be a man of moderately high (not D-Rob high, but still) integrity and was probably not pleased by TP's actions in the last year and a half.
    duncan might not have the last decision, but there are guys in the front office or shareholders in the club not happy with what happen...

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    Spurs' R.C. Buford, on Tony Parker trade rumors: "We're not shopping anyone...............yet. " bit.ly/jBkUWV


    Via Twitter. So much for that.


    Fixed

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    Top 5 ? Give me a break. I'm a fan, but thats over the top.
    I'll bite... Duncan, Robinson, Gervin, Manu... who is 5th if not Parker?

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    Kings can observe there contracts I believe because there under the current cap right now,I believe. A Parker and Jefferson for Casspi,Thompson ans 7th pick with a $12 million trade exception to go after a point guard, and would be nice if spurs can use the 7th pick to acquire the 9th and 19th pick from the bobcats, but got to be ralistic parker has about no more than 4 good years on him, he's no jason kidd, tp will lose his speed. Yeah I wish Hill would be traded also, even if Parker does or doesn't get traded for a back end lottery pick. I would wait next year to trade parker but I think Spurs see it as this could be the last time they get good value for parker back as he will be 30 next year. Kings really want to put people in seats in Sac to keep them there, and getting a championship guard like Parker even taking Jefferson, who is more of bad fit in the spurs system then a bad player,can really bring back some fans,especially having 2 players on a starting lineup that had the best record in the west. Kings want a veteran SF it seems, and don't think they can lure battier, or prince to sac. Maybe Wilson Chandler, but not a huge upgrade over RJ ,after that horrible series against the Thunder this year,he's younger though. Spurs just aren't getting a lot of offers for Parker it seems but I do love Casspi.

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