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  1. #51
    ambchang is my bitch Daddy_Of_All_Trolls's Avatar
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    Totally understandable. I'm not denying that Wilt was a better player than Russell.



    I definitely would've taken Hakeem, Kareem, Wilt, and Shaq before Russell. I think I would've taken Russell over Unseld, Rodman, and Ewing though.
    Interesting points. The more I think about it, and I've alluded to it already, there are definite reasons you pick offensive minded centers over Russell. Granted, Russell will get you rebounds, but his prmary advantage for getting so many rings was his teams were stacked against the rest of the league. In this fantasy draft, every team is stacked, thus negating much of Russell's rebounding and shot blocking advantages. See, when Russell's team has the ball, single man on man coverage will suffice to defend because Russell does not need to be double teamed. Dwight Howard or prime Tim Duncan require extra attention when the ball goes inside to them and they pass out for an open 3 pointer. If Russell tries to defend them one on one, he will be abused, as Chamberlain did to him, by many. He would have no chance stopping Kareem, Shaq, Duncan, Howard, Tim, or several other centers.

    I know I am in the minority here, but I've already proved Russell is overrated in the link in my signature. Current assessment disagrees, and as noted above, Julius Erving and Oscar Robertson pay the price.

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    selbstverständlich Agloco's Avatar
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    >Dirk in the 5th round
    Appropriate

  3. #53
    hizzle fo shizzle Girasuck's Avatar
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    IMO Lee Jenkins has the best team.

  4. #54
    Derrick White fanboy FkLA's Avatar
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    People enjoy your posts and care about what you have to say.
    You cared enough to quote it. Tee hee.

    What round would you have picked Diggler in bro ?

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    You cared enough to quote it. Tee hee.

    What round would you have picked Diggler in bro ?
    Even spurfans have already acknowledged Dirk should've went much higher.

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    Derrick White fanboy FkLA's Avatar
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    What round do you think wouldve been appropriate ?

  7. #57
    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    3rd at the latest. Have you seen some of the players before him?

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    Kooler than Jesus Nathan Explosion's Avatar
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    All Richard Deitsch does is win.
    Hakeem at C and Duncan at PF? Those are easily two of the 15 best big men ever (maybe 10) oh, and KG as the SF/3rd man in the big men rotation. That's formidable right there.

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    It may be the Spurs fan in me, but Thomsen has Drexler playing with Bird and Nash with Ginobili on the bench. Would you all do that, because I'm not sure I would. Drexler was athletic as and could slash to the bucket, but with Nash and Bird out there, I think Gino's passing would fit in with them. Plus, I could be wrong, but I don't remember Drexler being a deep threat, and with Walton and Mourning in the paint, you might want some deep threats to open up the lane for the big men.

    Other than that, a very solid team. I still think the Hakeem/Duncan lineup is underrated (only one other guy mentions it). Hakeem was dominant in his low post footwork and a great shot blocker, and the other guy is the best PF ever, who is also a good shot blocker and has excellent low post footwork. Plus, both have mid-range jumpshots to play a high/low game with each other and were good passers.

    And both guys also carried inferior/not quite ready talent to a le (94 Rockets/03 Spurs).

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    I'm Spurtacus Spurtacus's Avatar
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    Dirk > Iverson
    Manu > Iverson

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    Dryer than Kunta's ankles Ashy Larry's Avatar
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    lol @ Bob Cousy .... that patty would get raped.

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    T-Mac was close with Kobe in 03-04 I believe it was. He had the tools to be better, he was just content on letting his natural talent get him by.
    +1

    T-Mac is the most naturally gifted and talented player I have ever seen. I've never seen the game look so easy and natural to a guy, like it did for T-Mac. He would put up 40 and not even look like he was trying or working hard.

    If he had the will and work ethic of Kobe or MJ, there isnt a doubt in my mind he would be the greatest player the game has ever seen.

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    The article is quite vague, what does it mean by "prime of their career"? Does it mean one season? A few seasons? One playoff run? What does that mean? If it does, in fact, mean one season, then we should strictly look at the peak year of each player, and there would be a few names in contention of the #1 spot

    62 Wilt
    00 Shaq
    61-63 Big O
    73-76 Dr. J
    94-95 Hakeem
    69-74 Kareem
    88-89 Magic
    02-04 Duncan
    85-88 Bird
    91-93 Jordan
    81-82 Moses Malone
    77 Walton

    Also there are some players who had their careers derailed by injuries, (Bernard King, Grant Hill, T-Mac, Bill Walton) who would have been all-time greats other wise. But if we are only talking about prime, those two would make it much much higher in the list.

    Anyways, I think the list is whacked, especially when longevity of excellence shouldn't be included based on the rules outlined by the article itself.

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    +1

    T-Mac is the most naturally gifted and talented player I have ever seen. I've never seen the game look so easy and natural to a guy, like it did for T-Mac. He would put up 40 and not even look like he was trying or working hard.

    If he had the will and work ethic of Kobe or MJ, there isnt a doubt in my mind he would be the greatest player the game has ever seen.
    Same could be said for Carter. Vince Carter had the inside and outside game to compliment is incredible athletic ability. Too bad the guy was unprofessional, and just plain didn't care.

    Carter would easily have been a top 10 talent if he put forth the effort to do it.

    Shaq would have been best of all time, and at least top 3 of all time, if he took the game seriously and play at his 00 level for 5 or 6 years.

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    After looking at all the teams, would be tough to bet against the Wolff team.'

    Nobody can score on them: Jordan, Robinson, Cowens, Dumars, Thurmond, Dennis Johnson, Wallace and Cheeks

    They can score against the best of them: Jordan, Robinson, Wade, Cowens, Paul

    They have a clear cut go to guy: Jordan

    They have team players: Robinson, Cowens, Dumars, Paul, Johnson, Horry, Porter, Wallace and Cheeks

    They have clutch players: Jordan, Wade, , Cowens, Dumars

    They have passers: Wade, Dumars, Paul, Johnson, Porter, Cheeks

    They have rebounders: Robinson, Wallace, Cowens, Thurmond.

    This looks like one well-balanced formidable team.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    +1

    T-Mac is the most naturally gifted and talented player I have ever seen. I've never seen the game look so easy and natural to a guy, like it did for T-Mac. He would put up 40 and not even look like he was trying or working hard.

    If he had the will and work ethic of Kobe or MJ, there isnt a doubt in my mind he would be the greatest player the game has ever seen.
    Sometimes I think it was just his dazed, googly eyes that made it look like he wasn't trying because he always had a very bored or disinterested expression when he's hitting 3 after 3 in your face on insane turnaround fadeaways or pull ups with 2 defenders in his grill.

    I'll never forget him ass raping the Spurs. And Devin Brown for slipping and falling like an asshole to end the game.

    Kinda sad that that's what he will be remembered for though. And not getting out of the first round until he was injured.

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    My Favorite Faded Fantasy The Gemini Method's Avatar
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    Ballard's team would be hard to get a rebound on that's for sure...

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    Given the ''build a team'' aspect of this draft

    Taking Kobe over Duncan & Hakeem is


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    Picking MJ 1st overall wasn't the best choice. Gotta secure the best big man, get your front court. Jordan would go right away after you passed up on him leaving another quality player for you to pick from in the 2nd. MJ was the best ever, but there are players who could collectively fill that role.

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    Picking MJ 1st overall wasn't the best choice. Gotta secure the best big man, get your front court. Jordan would go right away after you passed up on him leaving another quality player for you to pick from in the 2nd. MJ was the best ever, but there are players who could collectively fill that role.
    Jordan didn't/doesn't need a post player to win a le. . .

  21. #71
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    I'm still at a loss of words how you pass up Kareem for Russell.

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    Jordan didn't/doesn't need a post player to win a le. . .
    He would against those teams.

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