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George Hill. Hill's value was all the Spurs had left. You won't get much for Blair or Splitter alone.
Hill's game has dropped off precipitously over the last few seasons. He won't make or break any roster. He's a bit player with some creative moments. His defense has declined since his rookie season as well as his ability to run the point. He's a pure shooter and that's it. Surely your kidding if you think a one-dimensional role player is going to cash in big. If thats the case, your looking at the next S-jax.
George Hill. Hill's value was all the Spurs had left. You won't get much for Blair or Splitter alone.
RJ got benched in the post-season, so I think you're a little misguided here.
That, and the off-season hasn't even really started yet, let's see how the summer plays out.
The reason owners want a hard cap is really to prevent themselves from constantly overpaying for marginal talent. They've done it over and over again.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter if Hill can be had for $4m. This team isn't improving with him in the roster. We might or might not improve with these kids. That's why you make the move.
If thats the case then they must be REALLY high on Leonard then.....
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Not true. Hill's value by himself could only fetch you small value like picks. He was only worth $2m (his salary for next season).
The Spurs true value is on Dice's contract. Since he's retiring, that's $5.2m we can use and that another team can wipe out of their books right after the trade. You add Bonner's $3m or Blair's $1m and now you have some money to make a move.
Wow, this trade is a steal then!
I think you're spot on with Bonner. The fact that they've been actively trying to dump RJ's contract, to the point of even considering moving Parker to do so, tells me they're probably pretty fed up with him. That said, Leonard might not be ready to be a starter yet, but I'm pretty sure he'll get some decent playing time to develop behind RJ.
We turned a guy who wasn't even a lock to be our first guard off the bench next season but would have been asking for MLE money next summer into three prospects.
Complaining about this trade is dumb.
I was never high on Hill but he had value on the trade market. Package him with a Blair and/or Splitter and the Spurs could have proven talent in return.
we'll miss Hill's reliable free throw shooting that's for sure, that aspect of his game is being underrated IMO (given he'd always be a role player as long as the Big-3 exists, his playmaking can probably be replaced, and three point shooting is replaceable, but his penetration/explosiveness will be harder to replace).
Hill made just as many free-throws as Tony Parker last season, took the 3rd most amount of free-throws on the whole team (accounted for a good 25% of his scoring), and often times late in games, outside of Manu, he was our go-to FT shooter. I can't see Gary Neal putting up the same kind of production, perhaps James Anderson, but who knows.
Hill's man-to-man defense will be missed too, but feel like part of the reason he was tradable was his lack of size (not necessarily just height) for a 2-guard and when you have to put him on a forward for even 1-2 minutes it's just asking too much. Leonard too doesn't seem to have an exact position, but at least he's got legit size and girth for a SF, and seems like more of a natural swingman than say James Gist (hopefully at least).. Hill's inconsistency was a problem too,
absolute worst comes to worse, it's another James White-esque situation in which his athleticism and talent doesn't translate to the NBA and for some reason he doesn't help our team (curious: did he ever work out for the Spurs?), but he's more of a sure thing than white probably. best case scenario at least this season, we have our own Mbah a Moute somebody who can at least contribute defensively relatively soon, and is good for offensive rebounding (ie. extra possessions) on misses.
in all likelihood the Spurs aren't done making moves this offseason so it's hard to give them a final grade
Why not package Blair/RJ instead??? Or Splitter/RJ, if it guarantees a solid big man.
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Like Kevin Love? crofl
I don't get you. You just said Hill is an average talent, but you think it will fetch you a guy that very likely will get a max deal once his rookie salary runs out?
Hills value dropped off yet you're upset about trading him?
The ?
BTW his value hasn't dropped off at all.
Hill had nice qualities and he'll probably get better with an extended role in Indiana. It's a role the Spurs couldn't give him due to having two much more superior players in Manu and Tony, and a serviceable guy in Neal.
I don't even think that him being fairly mediocre playing PG was his fault. He's a SG that was playing out of position, so I can't really pin that on him. The only thing I can complain about with him is that he basically only showed up for 41 out of the 82 games. He was fairly consistently awful on the road all season long.
Their salaries limit what could be taken back.
One for three is quite good in this case.
Amped about this trade. It helps both teams, actually. I won't miss Hill too much - we can cover for him - and Kawhi is a guy we've badly, badly needed for several years now.
Amen.
I only watched the first round and saw the Hill-for-Leonard swap. I didn't even know about the additional picks. Totally agree that one for three is very good.
Based on a cursory glance at Leonard's info, it seems he's an energy player with poor lateral movement/speed. Sounds familiar...
lmao way to focus on the negative.
Finally get a long, athletic, wing defender and everybody still ing about it. Everyone has been calling for this since Bruce retired.
and if you are somehow trying to compare him to RJ (which I am not sure who you are trying to relate him to) you couldn't be further from the truth because there games are nothing alike,
No, I'm thinking in terms of right now. He could have gotten quality talent at the trade deadline for one last stand. It doesn't matter what I think of Hill, the rest of the league still values him. His youth and potential still drives up his trade value. Sending him in a package with Splitter and/or Blair will net quality talent in return. Duncan and Parker are off the books after this season. Don't tell me they won't have money to spend.
I wanted Hill gone... Just not for a Big Mac and fries.
Hills value dropped off yet you're upset about trading him?
The ?
BTW his value hasn't dropped off at all.
to be fair, his name is captainbringdown.
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