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  1. #51
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    This was a great trade, Leonard is going to be a pretty darn good player, imo he's another Gerald Wallace.

    Losing Hill you get:
    -More Minutes for Anderson/Neal. Anderson has a pretty high ceiling, better size, skill set, potential etc. while Neal is going to be a 16-18 PPG guy next year.

    -A bunch of young players with a lot of potential in the draft

    -Better on defense, if you watched the Spurs this year you'd know that Hill really fell off, his defense was getting really sloppy, TONS of late rotations as well as being unable to get past a damn screen.

    -The Spurs got BIGGER. Leonard is a really long SF, he can play defense especially in the passing lanes, rebound like a beast, he's got a really high motor, he's a gym rat (always working to get better), he changed his shot mechanics, he can score in the paint, he was projected by many mock drafts to go in the top 10 (7-10). As I said before they opened up playing time for Anderson at SG, which means the Spurs got bigger. No more teams posting up our Guards/Forwards or rebounding on them at will like Memphis did last year. Leonard has an 8'10 standing reach and a 7'3 wingspan, he's got the potential to turn into a lock down NBA defender.
    Gary Neal can occasionally go off for 20 points but if he becomes a 16-18 ppg guy this season then he's probably doing it because Parker and/or Manu are injured. Anderson hasn't looked all that great since his injury. Hopefully he gets back to where he was pre-injury.

    This is one of the weakest drafts in the past 10 years.

    The Spurs got bigger and got better on defense, which is what they needed.

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    Well I don't like it. Hill was improving every year. Although he did plateau last year and he did some stupid mistakes in the playoff series. Still he was our best young guy, nobody can deny that. I would have traded him for a real NBA player and not an unknown that we have to start from ZERO again. what a waste.
    Real NBA players usually have Real contracts. Leonard is going to be better than Hill sooner than you think.

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    lol 4>1 rings

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    Leonard is going to be better than Hill sooner than you think.
    ppl say like this about rookies every year. truth is nobody ing knows. we'll see

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    Yeah, one of the best shooters in the NBA that scored 10 PPG in his rookie season in 21 MPG doesn't have a chance to put up those numbers . Especially with Hill leaving, he'll be getting a lot more touches, but of course he won't be able to score 6 more points in 10 minutes, great logic there.

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    I'm fine with it. Hill had his moments (okay, he had a good series against Dallas), but as a marginally good player, he is far from irreplaceable. You can't just grapple onto every decent player that puts on a uniform. Besides, this was the last year of his rookie contract and the Spurs weren't going to be able to pay him going forward anyways, so at least they got some return value out of him this way.

    Clears up the log-jam at SG, gets more minutes for Neal and Anderson. Adds a defensive forward and a couple other prospects down the line. Shows some sort of willingness by the front office to shake things up for a change.

    And Spurs, classy as always, sending Hill back to his hometown.

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    ppl say like this about rookies every year. truth is nobody ing knows. we'll see
    Nobody ing knows anything. It's basketball, not existentialism.

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    Gary Neal can occasionally go off for 20 points but if he becomes a 16-18 ppg guy this season then he's probably doing it because Parker and/or Manu are injured. Anderson hasn't looked all that great since his injury. Hopefully he gets back to where he was pre-injury.

    This is one of the weakest drafts in the past 10 years.

    The Spurs got bigger and got better on defense, which is what they needed.

    He's pretty much guaranteed to get more minutes, more plays will be ran for him and he'll get a lot more touches. He scored 10 PPG last year averaging just 21 MPG in his rookie season, this year he's coming back more experienced and much more comfortable. We saw his ability to drive it and shoot those crazy floaters, his great shooting from all over the court etc.

    Leonard isn't a scoring machine either, again leading to more touches for Neal.

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    what the you ers smoking??? Gary neal average 18 a game???

    wake up

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    lol

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    Crofl Hill traded

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    what the you ers smoking??? Gary neal average 18 a game???

    wake up

    I don't see why not, he was scoring 10 PPG in 21 MPG in his rookie season, and that was without any set plays, nearly everything was just catch and shoot. The Spurs will surely create a lot of plays for him, he'll be getting around 10 more minutes a game, you've seen his offensive arsenal which is pretty impressive, not only is he one of the best shooters in the NBA but he can drive as well that floater is deadly. The absence of Hill and addition of Leonard will make him the primary ball handler off the bench.

    You act as if Neal is some sort of scrub lmao.

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    I doubt Neal will get 10 more minutes a game. 5, 7 tops.

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    he's 28. he ain't a true rookie.

    no way in he will almost double his point production next season

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    he's 28. he ain't a true rookie.

    no way in he will almost double his point production next season

    That's why I said 16-18 ppg, 18 being his ceiling while 16 being more realistic.

    I know he's not a true rookie, it's just that his comfort level playing with other guys in the 2nd year the Spurs using him a lot more will lead to him scoring around 16PPG, especially with him handling the ball a lot more.

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    Yeah, one of the best shooters in the NBA that scored 10 PPG in his rookie season in 21 MPG doesn't have a chance to put up those numbers . Especially with Hill leaving, he'll be getting a lot more touches, but of course he won't be able to score 6 more points in 10 minutes, great logic there.
    You said he could average 18 points, so you think Gary Neal could be the top scorer next year? rofl.

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    I doubt Neal will get 10 more minutes a game. 5, 7 tops.

    I think he might play some PG, we saw Pop move RMJ to PG and I think he'll do the same with Neal a bit especially with Joseph as the only backup PG. I'm pretty sure the Spurs will have to play him 10 more mpg.

    When you have a bench that consists of:

    -Splitter/Bonner/Blair (Splitter might be starting if Dice leaves)
    -Leonard (IMO he's the #1 SF off the bench)
    -Anderson
    -Neal
    -Joseph/???

    Nearly all of the scoring will be coming from Anderson/Neal, the other guys aren't really scorers.

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    You said he could average 18 points, so you think Gary Neal could be the top scorer next year? rofl.

    Refer to the post above yours.

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    I think he might play some PG, we saw Pop move RMJ to PG and I think he'll do the same with Neal a bit especially with Joseph as the only backup PG. I'm pretty sure the Spurs will have to play him 10 more mpg.

    When you have a bench that consists of:

    -Splitter/Bonner/Blair (Splitter might be starting if Dice leaves)
    -Leonard (IMO he's the #1 SF off the bench)
    -Anderson
    -Neal
    -Joseph/???

    Nearly all of the scoring will be coming from Anderson/Neal, the other guys aren't really scorers.
    That's not going to be the bench the Spurs go with next year.

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    This trade while not horrible certainly isn't going to have any short term pay out either so I'm kind of indifferent to it now.

    They got a bunch of prospects who aren't going to contribute any time soon, for a player who was good but far from being a difference maker.

    Basically the Spurs remain in the limbo, they don't blow up their core to start rebuilding but also don't improve for the next season.

    Pretty much what Parker said on his interview. Still a good team, no longer a contender.

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    This trade while not horrible certainly isn't going to have any short term pay out either so I'm kind of indifferent to it now.

    They got a bunch of prospects who aren't going to contribute any time soon, for a player who was good but far from being a difference maker.

    Basically the Spurs remain in the limbo, they don't blow up their core to start rebuilding but also don't improve for the next season.

    Pretty much what Parker said on his interview. Still a good team, no longer a contender.
    How would you have improved the Spurs team short term with the 29th pick?

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    George Hill say's thank you for the memories San Antonio and thank you for sending me back home.

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    spurs got robbed imo, at least they should've demanded an extra bonus like hibert

    future all-star for an obscure unproven #15 draft

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    How would you have improved the Spurs team short term with the 29th pick?
    With a 29 pick is hard to improve the team for the short term ofc, although the Mavs manage to do it with a 26, but that's not the point.

    By trading a vital part of the rotation it's arguable that the Spurs actually got worse for the next season.

    As I said maybe not significantly worse, but forgive me if I'm not convinced that this rookie is the second coming of Bruce Bowen or that he is even going to play significant minutes in his first year like most Spurs fans.

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    I'd say neal will average around 13 a game next season. Probably minutes increase to 25 a game.

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