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    Cleveland is interested in him

    look for us to dump RJ (with the CLE trade exception) and Joseph for some change

    maybe sessions and some other chip
    It doesn't makes sense for CLE to use trade exception on an RJ/Joseph combo - they already have Irving, Sessions, Davis, and Gibson at PG and if they use the trade exception it will be to take on a much better player than RJ

    CLE could be good trade partner to get rid of RJ but something like this is much more plausible:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=63mnyhp

    Salary difference minimal (RJ = 30 over 3 and Davis 28 over 2), plus Cavs get savings of Dice, and don't have to worry about Davis as a bad influence on young guys especially since his minutes would probably diminish even more in light of Irving and youth movement in CLE. RJ may suck but is a professional.

    SA gets a backup veteran PG to come off bench and one who should be motivated/thankful for a chance at playoffs and play his best ball

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    SA gets a backup veteran PG to come off bench and one who should be motivated/thankful for a chance at playoffs and play his best ball
    There's a world of difference between "Should be" and "Is", especially when it comes to Baron Davis, though...

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    Since Joseph was a bit of a reach, do we expect the Spurs to haggle with his contract or give him the standard 120%? I don't know the financial situation very well, but we have to be close to the luxury tax line.

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    Has anyone asked ST's NBDL's Chris Sheridan (Chump) about how this kid will fit in Austin next year?

    What do you think Chump? Does he have a chance to lead the NBDL in assists? What about his chances making the All-Star team? Can the toros get to the championship with Corey?

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    Since Joseph was a bit of a reach, do we expect the Spurs to haggle with his contract or give him the standard 120%? I don't know the financial situation very well, but we have to be close to the luxury tax line.
    I don't think it matters a whole lot. The most he would make would be slightly over $1 million this season.

    Has anyone asked ST's NBDL's Chris Sheridan (Chump) about how this kid will fit in Austin next year?

    What do you think Chump? Does he have a chance to lead the NBDL in assists? What about his chances making the All-Star team? Can the toros get to the championship with Corey?
    lol still butthurt

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    lol we got Carlton as the new backup point guard. Welp, TP's gonna be seeing alot more minutes now for sure

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    Cool. Can't wait to see all these young, talented guys not play next year.

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    So is every post of yours from now on is going to be ing about the Hill trade or will you be sprinkling Pop and Bonner ing in there as well?

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    Anyone think Richards was drafted as an immediate backup for Duncan?

    This is all longer term stuff. Plenty of FA to man the point for 7 minutes/game.

    Parker/Manu/Neal rotation this year. Manu can clearly play point. Neal in at 8 min for Manu, Manu for Parker after the quarter. Parker in for Neal... Its gonna be tough if someone goes down though.

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    Parker/Manu/Neal rotation this year. Manu can clearly play point. Neal in at 8 min for Manu, Manu for Parker after the quarter. Parker in for Neal... Its gonna be tough if someone goes down though.
    Anderson will be in the guard rotation.

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    Anderson will be in the guard rotation.
    Im hoping on that one... Only problem is you can never have Neal and Anderson on the floor at the same time if a game means anything, thats a ball handling night mare. So Manu or Tony always have to be your handles on the floor every minute if a game counts. Hill could play with Neal but it definitely was not preferable.

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    manu minutes will be 20 a year and he will be off the bench

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    Anyone think Richards was drafted as an immediate backup for Duncan?
    Pretty doubtful. He currently hasn't even been selected by his senior national team. The Toros' backup center has, and that's after Pops Mensah-Bonsu pulled out with an injury. Richards is going to spend next month playing against ty Euro children's teams. If he is chosen to play for the senior team, we can see if he plays any significant minutes in the Eurobasket compe ion in September.

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    manu minutes will be 20 a year and he will be off the bench
    20 minutes a year?

    lol ducks

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    yes.. as a longhorn.. aj was a better pg than cory..

    AJ played at UT for FOUR years, not one. C'mon here.

    Joseph is essentially a futures pick. He needed more seasoning at Texas, yes, but that wasn't to be.

    I think RC was pretty happy about getting him.

    What will Cory be in 3-4 years? He might be really good.

    I know he is a willing defender, a good athlete, and has the range to hit pullup 3s.

    Will he be better than George Hill next year? - No.
    Would the Spurs be able to sign George Hill to a reasonable contract next year? Probably not.

    Given that the Spurs don't have an unlimited budget for players, they did the best they could. The CBA could have made it even more difficult to keep a George Hill type player.

    Peter Holt is deeply involved in the negotiations of the CBA and probably has a good idea what the lay of the land may be next year.

    Hard caps and the like could make Hill an unaffordable luxury next year.

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    His play and his form remind me of Doc Rivers

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    Nah, they'll probably sign another point guard.
    Chris Quinn perhaps?

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    Chris Quinn perhaps?
    Maybe, but I think they might look for more of a primary backup point guard unless they are super high on Joseph.

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    It doesn't makes sense for CLE to use trade exception on an RJ/Joseph combo - they already have Irving, Sessions, Davis, and Gibson at PG and if they use the trade exception it will be to take on a much better player than RJ

    CLE could be good trade partner to get rid of RJ but something like this is much more plausible:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=63mnyhp

    Salary difference minimal (RJ = 30 over 3 and Davis 28 over 2), plus Cavs get savings of Dice, and don't have to worry about Davis as a bad influence on young guys especially since his minutes would probably diminish even more in light of Irving and youth movement in CLE. RJ may suck but is a professional.

    SA gets a backup veteran PG to come off bench and one who should be motivated/thankful for a chance at playoffs and play his best ball
    At first, I dismissed this trade scenario. Then after reading the explanation, it does have advantages on about sides. I want to believe that the Cavs will be just as desparate to get rid of Baron Davis, as the Spurs will be to get rid of RJ.

    Although, I just can't see Pop and R.C. welcoming a classic underachiever like Baron Davis into the fold. Seldom has he found his comfort zone. He's been out of shape or injured most of the time and moody the rest of the time. Still, it would be a good 2-year plan, giving Cory Joseph time to learn and develop. Also, Davis would probably add nore value to the team than RJ would.

    However, if they knock on the Cavs door about any potential trade proposal, I hope it's for Anderson Varejao.

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    So you think Dice's contract has some value?

    It does seem like another team would be interested in a one year, partially guaranteed deal for $5-6MM. I hope that is the case.

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    Dice's contract is their best trade asset if they're to acquire an established NBA big.

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    Something about this kid I dont dig; he seems like he's high on the gangsta factor. He reminds me of Jason Terry or something.

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    Something about this kid I dont dig; he seems like he's high on the gangsta factor. He reminds me of Jason Terry or something.
    Naaah, I don't see him as another Turtle/Ratface Terry.

    For one, he is from Toronto, Canada.

    Two, RC Buford's adopted kid was on the Texas team, so he knows Joseph well. RC and Pop don't like taking on bad guys. Just look at their history.

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    So you think Dice's contract has some value?

    It does seem like another team would be interested in a one year, partially guaranteed deal for $5-6MM. I hope that is the case.
    Absolutely. It's probably their best remaining asset.

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    Maybe, but I think they might look for more of a primary backup point guard unless they are super high on Joseph.
    This.

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