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    seriously, the overrating of george hill on this board is ing ridiculous.
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    Doesn't help when every single sports writer including San Antonio beat writers keep referring to a sarcastic comment by Pop calling Hill "his favorite player." Obviously that le belongs to Bonner .

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    haters gonna hate

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    lmao if he was so good, where was he in the 1st round?

    both of our PGs got crapped on tbh

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    Hill can't handle being pressured by defenders and he was obviously screwed when the opposition = Tony Allen and Shane Battier. He had that one good Memphis game during the regular season where he was hitting every shot. I remember behind the back fadeaways were going in for him that game.

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    Hill will be an a future allstar in Indiana.
    The Spurs did not develope Hill properly, trying to plug him into team needs and playing him as a pg.

    Playing him behind Manu and parker stifled his game. If the Spurs were smart they would have seen manu's small window and shipped him out for an upgrade on the frontline and moved Hill to starting sg.
    With Hill, Anderson and Neal the Spurs would have been good at sg and they could have gotten a borderline star or really good young player on the frontline for Manu and push Bonner to a limited minutes player.

    Now the Spurs will likely fill the frontline with an over the hill washed up backup and call it the summer. Leaving the frontline still too thin to have a legitimate chance at a le next year.

    In indiana they will play Hill at starting sg and watch him gain confidence and grow into an all star.
    The Spurs should have moved Manu and kept Hill as the starting sg.
    Rascal, you could very well be right about George. He always played better when he was starting. Whether that was with Tony as a SG or with Manu at PG (really he still played SG when paired with Manu but deferred too much). We'll have to see, but he very well could turn out to be an All Star caliber player if he gets the chance to develop in Indiana.

    Also, even though Hill sucked at PG I was still OK with the Spurs trading TP if they could get someone really, really good at PF or C as I thought George usually always plays better when starting so I thought we'd be OK. We also could have payed Hill in the 7 million range and saved some money instead of paying TP 13 million and used the money on a big.

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    I'll bump this thread in a couple of years.

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    this guy is a 17-20 ppg player given starter minutes,

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    You had been wanting to trade Manu for anything going from S-Jax to expiring contracts for years now, so sorry if I don't care about what you have to say right now.

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    Monta Ellis is an example of what could happen to Hill if he is given minutes on a bad team. His stats will look good just because of increased usage and playing time. Doesn't mean the trade was bad.
    Come on you two above, we could say that about Ariza as well and look what happened? NOTHING at all. Monta Elis IS VERY SKILLED! He is a better player than Hill and you guys need to stop it. You could put a player on a team as well and he is their main guy and they shut him down and his FG % drops because they are exposed! Monta would put up numbers with that skillset in almost any situation IMO.


    I have seen some say so and so could do this on a team if they touched the ball alot, seen the player fade out after leaving a good team who made them look better than they were! Your company often makes you better.

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    Come on you two above, we could say that about Ariza as well and look what happened? NOTHING at all. Monta Elis IS VERY SKILLED! He is a better player than Hill and you guys need to stop it. You could put a player on a team as well and he is their main guy and they shut him down and his FG % drops because they are exposed! Monta would put up numbers with that skillset in almost any situation IMO.


    I have seen some say so and so could do this on a team if they touched the ball alot, seen the player fade out after leaving a good team who made them look better than they were! Your company often makes you better.
    Tell that to RJ.

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    unless hill is conistent he will not be an allstar
    I thought they should traded manu also
    I mean hurt 4 times in a row when it counts
    get a player that can play more minutes regular and postseason even if he can not be the great manu
    they would be better off

    manu off of the thunder or bulls bench would have maybe put both teams over the top

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    Over Hill after last year. Got too intimidated in playoffs and played worse overall than 2010

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    As long as Granger is a Pacer, there won't be enough shots for Hill to even sniff an All Star selection in Indiana.
    Yah, that's why Wade couldn't make it either, that damn Lebron and Bosh taking all the shots.

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    Rascal, you could very well be right about George. He always played better when he was starting. Whether that was with Tony as a SG or with Manu at PG (really he still played SG when paired with Manu but deferred too much). We'll have to see, but he very well could turn out to be an All Star caliber player if he gets the chance to develop in Indiana.

    Also, even though Hill sucked at PG I was still OK with the Spurs trading TP if they could get someone really, really good at PF or C as I thought George usually always plays better when starting so I thought we'd be OK. We also could have payed Hill in the 7 million range and saved some money instead of paying TP 13 million and used the money on a big.
    +1

    Why pay Parker 14m when you can pay Hill half of that or less? And considering how thin the spurs are at point guard, iron-man Hill would have been the safer bet IMO than the oft-injured high mileage Parker.

    Spurs will be totally up a creek if Parker has his annual 2-3 ankle rolls or god forbid, an injury.

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    Parker and Ginobili's health made his shooting percentages drop sharply?
    I wouldn't call that a sharp drop. And of course you don't mention his FT% which climbed up to 86%, as well as taking 40 more trips to the line. Which is the equivalent of approx 17-18 more made baskets which more than makes up for the slight drops in FG%.

    Defensively is where he showed some problems last year (esp in the grizz series), and I attribute this more to Pop making him defend so many different positions (from PG - SF) and Pop not formulating a plan to stop the grizzlies' offense to shut down all those backdoor cuts, which victimized the spurs' backcourt time and time again. With better coaching in Indiana plus a more defined, steady role Hill will pick up where he left off from his 2nd year and continue to get better.

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    Why pay Parker 14m when you can pay Hill half of that or less?
    Because Hill sucks more balls, than you at a ABBA concert, at the point guard position. That's why.

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    When the Spurs needed this bright and shiny "star" in the making during the playoffs last year against Phoenix and this year against Memphis. He disappeared. , he let Steve Nash drive past him something fierce. Steve Nash is one of the slowest point guards in the NBA.

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    Also, so done with the EW-EE-PUH-EE bs during Spurs games. Got tired of it the 100th time it was said in the same broadcast.

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    GH3 is gonna go the way of Beno minus all the hate.... He will put up some numbers then fade away into memory.

    Anyone remember the hype the Kings had with Beno and how much his sucker Spurs fans jerked off to that ? thats going to be George Hill.

    speaking of which, whatever happened to the Rasho suckers? Angel Luv, namely.

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    Why pay Parker 14m when you can pay Hill half of that or less? And considering how thin the spurs are at point guard, iron-man Hill would have been the safer bet IMO than the oft-injured high mileage Parker.
    Hill doesn't play point guard.

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    I think George Hill can be a larger part of the Pacers than he was of the Spurs offensive production. That might not be enough to make him an All-Star, but if he overcomes that mental barrier of his and begins to score naturally (which he can), he can average 17+ PPG.

    Looking at the Spurs roster, the decision to trade George was once again heavily influenced by money issues. Spurs have enough SGs, George never really was a PG.

    Question: If he had developed more, would he still have been traded (for more value)?

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    Between Dwayne Wade, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose, Joe Johnson, Rajon Rondo, John Wall and probably a couple of other guys not coming to mind at the moment, I'm pretty sure we don't need to be worrying about George Hill making an allstar team anytime soon.

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    Between Dwayne Wade, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose, Joe Johnson, Rajon Rondo, John Wall and probably a couple of other guys not coming to mind at the moment, I'm pretty sure we don't need to be worrying about George Hill making an allstar team anytime soon.
    He can still be an All Star caliber player and not make the All Star team. I think he's got the tools to be an All Star caliber player. Whether he gets there or not is another story.

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    I hope Hill flourishes indiana. Great person and very skilled once he gets it all together. It still hurts to see him go but I only wish the best for him.

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