if you're starting a team who do you pick...team 1 is MJ and Kobe and team 2 is Shaq and Duncan..you can build around either team 1 or team 2...
Big vs. the Best 2 guards in history...
I think I'm going with these guards if I'm starting a team...Shaq can be slowed down and Duncan could be stopped.
Shaq could be slowed down and Duncan could be stopped? Not by MJ or Kobe. The two would just be buried under the basket the whole game.
If MJ or Kobe misses a jumpshot, since that is all they will be able to get, the game is over. They aren't going to be able to stop Shaq or Duncan. They will also never get a rebound.
i'd pick kwame brown
what a failure of a thread. Kobe would never even touch the ball in MJ's team. So it would be MJ alone vs. 2 of the best bigmen in the NBA.
Rather than Shaq + Duncan combo, i would love to see a combo of Hakeem + DRob/Wilt the Stilt, the defense would be much more suffocating while the offense would be just as good.
If Kobe accepts the Pippen role, then I would pick MJ and Kobe. If not, Shaq and Duncan are easier to handle since their collective ego wouldn't be as suffocating.
Man, I can't even imagine MJ/Kobe on both sides of the court.
shaq and duncan easy. You have to remember there is only one ball
Shaq at C and Duncan at PF...fill the team with semi-capable players and you have a dynasty.
MJ and Kobe for me are too redundant.
i'd like to see hakeem and shaq. That would be filthy
, please.....
Big vs. the Best 2 guards in history...
I think I'm going with these guards if I'm starting a team...Shaq can be slowed down and Duncan could be stopped.
This is not about rumors of.selfishness, ego, or arrogance. The presumption is they're sharing and both dominant in their primes. The argument was / is which two teams would you build around. MJ playing the 2 and Mr. 81 playing the point. I think you could plug Hakeem and Wilt on MJ and Kobes team to stop Shaq and Duncan. You just don't pass up the most prolific backcourt in world history.
I think a more interesting topic is:
which combo would be better:
Shaq and Kobe vs.Tim and MJ or Shaq and MJ vs. Tim and Kobe.
Tim and Kobe actually came close to happening. Boston passed on drafting Bryant and lost the lottery sweepstakes the following year. Same with the Grizzlies.
You put Hakeem & Wilt on MJ + Kobe's team ? I think i'll try to counter that with Scottie Pip, Magic Johnson, and Larry Legend on Shaq + TD's team.
But that would still be hard, MJ is just so damn good, Kobe would be just playing Derek Fisher's role on that team, and that still wouldn't matter.
This ins't a thread about who would win between the two duos, it's who would you start a team with - big difference. But even if it was, Kobe mastered the MJ/Pippen hybrid role so it wouldn't be hard for him to play with MJ.
MJ and Kobe are both two of the fiercest compe ors that ever laced them up. Shaq/TD wouldn't have the heart to deal with those two alpha dogs. For those that think Kobe and MJ would get posted up all day, have you ever heard of perimeter defense and ball denial? Neither Shaq or TD have the handles to take them alpha dogs off the dribble or even get into position to make a good post entry pass. OTOH, who guards Kobe? Who guards Shaq? Either could go inside or outside. It would not be fair.
Back on topic. MJ/Kobe = 11 rings. Shaq/TD = 8 rings. I'd roll with them two to start a team.
I don't think that's a very interesting topic. The team with Kobe loses. It's as simple as that.
In your scenario I'd pick Tim and MJ and Tim and Kobe. I think MJ is just a shade better than Kobe but Kobe thinks the floor better than MJ that match up would cancel out. I think the biggest factor is Tim vs Shaq and I think Tim would out think Shaq and this gain the advantage.
Kobe doesn't belong in the same sentence as MJ, TD, and Shaq
There's nothing to be shocked about. I've always given Dunan his props.
I don't see how in the MJ would stay in front of Kobe and vice versa. Kobe is a more prolific scorer than MJ..he just happened to play with Shaq, thus the difference in their stats
Kobe would not defer to MJ and why should he...he's an alpha male...Pip deferred because he had to.
In this scenario, I'd take Kobe and TD. In their primes both were great on both sides of the ball. I believe that if they were paired together they would have won at least 6 rings (& yes I would have traded prime Shaq for TD to pair with Kobe).
Of course, you're a ty poster so nothing interests you. My opinion is it's better than the original topic.
So basically for MJ and Kobe to beat Shaq and Duncan they'd also need Wilt and Hakeem on their team?
Who knew, you're not a total idiot, deep down you actually do know that Tim + Shaq would be better.
WGAF
Jordan and Pippen on all of them
This is actually an interesting topic. Kobe and Jordan going at each other in practice would be something, and it would make them even better man defenders. But the utter inside dominating from O'Neal and Duncan is hard to pass up. Tough one.
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