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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    Saw the story on the news last night.
    How many in here allow it or would allow it and think it is safer to have their kids shag away at home then to do it elsewhere?
    I know some who do and there is no way I'd allow it.
    What say you?

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    lol that is just bad parenting. Like having sex somewhere else is any more safe. Safety is about protection and birth control, not where you have sex, unless you're have sex while hanging off a freeway overpass or something

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    My parents "let" me. By that, I mean, they knew it happened and never protested. Then again, but by the time I started, I was 17 and had just gotten finished spending an entire year in Germany as an exchange student. I didn't really have any rules at that point.

    That being said, NO WAY IN will my daughter have that priviledge.

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    Double-edged sword. Kids will be kids; if they are interested in having sex, they'll find a way. Not letting them do it at home just makes it that much harder for them, and potentially could make it riskier for them when they do (by rushing things, doing it in public, etc...).

    At the same time, it's hard to let them have sex at home without encouraging the behavior. My parents let me get away with it, but that was after I was a reasonable age to be having sex. The worst that came from that were a few awkward "you need to keep it down" moments. Still, we didn't spend a whole lot of time over at my girl's house, if you catch my drift.

    I think if it comes down to saying no and hoping for the best, or giving them the greenlight to be little bunnies...it's probably safer to go with the former.

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    My parents "let" me. By that, I mean, they knew it happened and never protested. Then again, but by the time I started, I was 17 and had just gotten finished spending an entire year in Germany as an exchange student. I didn't really have any rules at that point.

    That being said, NO WAY IN will my daughter have that priviledge.
    Yeah for some reason, boys get a lot more leniency in these kind of deals.

    Lord knows if we had tried the same business at my girls house, I probably would've had a shotgun turned on me.

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    Like the others have said, if it's going to happen it's going to happen. My parents allowed me to close my door with a girl in the room and left us alone. I was of a decent age by this point. Never did anything at a girl's house unless her parents were gone because that... If/when I have a girl I don't plan on letting her have that privilege but if I have boys I'm sure I'll be lenient.

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    So, by "not allowing" it, does this mean you discourage sex, but when they're in your daughter's room or basement, you don't interrupt to check up? Or do you not allow them to be in complete privacy in the first place?? (which is what one of my ex's mom did when we dated in HS, and we just primarily hung out at my place and ed all the time, or her mom's when she wasn't home). Because neither policy will totally eliminate sex, and continuously checking up/disallowing privacy makes your almost legally adult daughter to feel like a toddler.

    A "no sex" rule is just re ed Joe, you don't cease to amaze me with your rules. Why can't you (or your wife) simply educate your girl and understand that she's at a horny age and wants to be ed regardless of what daddy says??? She will do it elsewhere if she can't at your house. If you even manage to abstain completely until college (unlikely), when she finally does go away you lose every single last one of your re ed powers and she's gonna go crazy without that leash. TBH you're just propping her up to go all out and get out of her system once she is out the house.

    Just think about what you're really doing, picking an arbitrary age for when it's acceptable to have sex in life. Yeah, sure while 17 and still live under my roof, no sex. It's allowed next year though, no worries, thanks for complying. I truly think you are significantly smarter/mature compared to one year ago, and you are finally of sex-having age, based on my funny, arbitrary restrictions.
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    A "no sex" rule is just re ed Joe, you don't cease to amaze me with your rules. Why can't you (or your wife) simply educate your girl and understand that she's at a horny age and wants to be ed regardless of what daddy says??? She will do it elsewhere if she can't at your house. If you even manage to abstain completely until college (unlikely), when she finally does go away you lose every single last one of your re ed powers and she's gonna go crazy without that lease. TBH you're just propping her up to go all out and get out of her system once she is out the house.


    All valid points though, imo.

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    So, by "not allowing" it, does this mean you discourage sex, but when they're in your daughter's room or basement, you don't interrupt to check up? Or do you not allow them to be in complete privacy in the first place?? (which is what one of my ex's mom did when we dated in HS, and we just primarily hung out at my place and ed all the time, or her mom's when she wasn't home). Because neither policy will totally eliminate sex, and continuously checking up/disallowing privacy makes your almost legally adult daughter to feel like a toddler.

    A "no sex" rule is just re ed Joe, you don't cease to amaze me with your rules. Why can't you (or your wife) simply educate your girl and understand that she's at a horny age and wants to be ed regardless of what daddy says??? She will do it elsewhere if she can't at your house. If you even manage to abstain completely until college (unlikely), when she finally does go away you lose every single last one of your re ed powers and she's gonna go crazy without that lease. TBH you're just propping her up to go all out and get out of her system once she is out the house.

    Just think about what you're really doing, picking an arbitrary age for when it's acceptable to have sex in life. Yeah, sure while 17 and still live under my roof, no sex. It's allowed next year though, no worries, thanks for complying. I truly think you are significantly smarter/mature compared to one year ago, and you are finally of sex-having age, based on my funny, arbitrary restrictions.
    You may not believe this, but there are actual kids/teens out there with discipline who can manage to keep it in their pants. Also, simply what they are feeling hormonally is not the only factor; there is a societal-wide mentality that virginity=lame.

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    So, by "not allowing" it, does this mean you discourage sex, but when they're in your daughter's room or basement, you don't interrupt to check up? Or do you not allow them to be in complete privacy in the first place?? (which is what one of my ex's mom did when we dated in HS, and we just primarily hung out at my place and ed all the time, or her mom's when she wasn't home). Because neither policy will totally eliminate sex, and continuously checking up/disallowing privacy makes your almost legally adult daughter to feel like a toddler.

    A "no sex" rule is just re ed Joe, you don't cease to amaze me with your rules. Why can't you (or your wife) simply educate your girl and understand that she's at a horny age and wants to be ed regardless of what daddy says??? She will do it elsewhere if she can't at your house. If you even manage to abstain completely until college (unlikely), when she finally does go away you lose every single last one of your re ed powers and she's gonna go crazy without that lease. TBH you're just propping her up to go all out and get out of her system once she is out the house.

    Just think about what you're really doing, picking an arbitrary age for when it's acceptable to have sex in life. Yeah, sure while 17 and still live under my roof, no sex. It's allowed next year though, no worries, thanks for complying. I truly think you are significantly smarter/mature compared to one year ago, and you are finally of sex-having age, based on my funny, arbitrary restrictions.
    You may not believe this, but there are actual kids/teens out there with discipline who can manage to keep it in their pants. Also, simply what they are feeling hormonally is not the only factor; there is a societal-wide mentality that virginity=lame.

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    You may not believe this, but there are actual kids/teens out there with discipline who can manage to keep it in their pants.
    Those are the rare exceptions, not the rule. Although he (alvarez) comes off a little too black&white with his rant, he's ultimately right in that teenagers are the horniest demographic there is. , I know I was...and don't confuse "the discipline" of not having sex with not being able to get any.
    Kids want to have sex, some are more successful in achieving it than others, but they all want some.

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    I can't control what happens outside of my house, I can try to control what happens inside my own home; like all the other "rules" (i.e. alcohol, drugs, manners, chores, etc.), I expect them to respect me and my wishes when they are under my roof. So far I've educated, advised, and will continue to discourage underage/unprotected sex. I try to be confident that I have given them the information to make wise choices, but I probably just have to keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best. I just don't know what I can do to stop it, if they decide to go for it.

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    Those are the rare exceptions, not the rule. Although he (alvarez) comes off a little too black&white with his rant, he's ultimately right in that teenagers are the horniest demographic there is. , I know I was...and don't confuse "the discipline" of not having sex with not being able to get any.
    Kids want to have sex, some are more successful in achieving it than others, but they all want some.
    Hah, all very true. Hormones are hormones but some teens may seek outlets for their horniness, or jack off for half an hour in the shower. It's creepy when you call them kids though.

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    I can't control what happens outside of my house, I can try to control what happens inside my own home; like all the other "rules" (i.e. alcohol, drugs, manners, chores, etc.), I expect them to respect me and my wishes when they are under my roof. So far I've educated, advised, and will continue to discourage underage/unprotected sex. I try to be confident that I have given them the information to make wise choices, but I probably just have to keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best. I just don't know what I can do to stop it, if they decide to go for it.
    I concur.

    Of course I know my girls are not going to be virgins for ever but I sure as ain't going to make it easier for them. I just done roll that way. I get where Alvarez is coming from he is of the younger generation so that explains quite a bit. I'm not about to break out the booze and ecstasy just because I can't control it.
    I'm not going to change my parenting ways just to be cool and be with the in crowd. Yeah, I'm old fashioned but that is just the way I am.

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    Tbh isn't joe the guy who bragged about sleeping around with skanks around the whole world without using protection, and now preaches abstinence and no protection to his skanky daughters like a good catholic?

    lol hypocrite

    lol catholic

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    Yeah. You really don't need booze when on X.

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    You may not believe this, but there are actual kids/teens out there with discipline who can manage to keep it in their pants. Also, simply what they are feeling hormonally is not the only factor; there is a societal-wide mentality that virginity=lame.
    Yeah, there are those like Alvarez who think every kid wants to get drunk and laid all the damn time and have no morals and maybe, just maybe they have more respect for themselves. My oldest has flat out told me that she is in control of when and if she has sex and my rules can't stop her which I am totally aware of but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop voicing my concerns when she goes or with whom she goes out. I'm a dad damnit and I won't stop caring or worrying about her until I'm dead.

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    It's creepy when you call them kids though.
    True, but it's what they are. The Age of Innocence is long gone

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    Tbh isn't joe the guy who bragged about sleeping around with skanks around the whole world without using protection, and now preaches abstinence and no protection to his skanky daughters like a good catholic?

    lol hypocrite

    lol catholic
    Yeah, that is me and I was 19 and out on my own. Big difference.
    Do as I say, not as I do. Quite a few parents do it that way. Live and learn is my motto. What the is the motto with you!!!?

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    And yeah, I'm Catholic and I'm stickin' with it. Not ashamed of it either as I know damn well I'm a sinner. Now excuse me while I go say my Our Fathers and Hail Marys.

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    And yeah, I'm Catholic and I'm stickin' with it. Not ashamed of it either as I know damn well I'm a sinner. Now excuse me while I go say my Our Fathers and Hail Marys.
    Don't you still smoke weed?

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    Pays rent. Puts food on the table and probably washes a dish or two.

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    Don't you still smoke weed?
    Used to be religiously but only now and then these days.

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    I guess my way of parenting will soon be long gone and I still have a 11 yr old. D'OH!!

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    Used to be religiously but only now and then these days.
    I don't have a problem with weed (or other drugs if used right), but your kids know you do this, and will be less likely to follow your strict rules.

    Plus, you're playing with fire, Joe.

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