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lol proving my point, angsty teenage
You were a great johnny on the spot example to my theory, and again you have my thanks. But please leave the deranged psychobabble for another thread.
lol proving my point, angsty teenage
Good for you, because low expectations is definitely your only way to happiness.
It doesn't chap my ass at all. On the contrary, your envy over such a dubious le is priceless to see. You really wanted this award, didn't you?
Please bring it up again and again and again.
Yeah, about that -- it's complete bull , just like everything else you have posted since draft night.And as far as having nothing new to say, I think I've talked quite extensively about many things; most recently in this thread about TP and his refusal to be a 6th man and how it led to Hill's departure from the team. You're welcome to comment on it and we can debate the topic, unless your butt is too chapped already.
I know what I'm talking about. After all, I won an award.
Angsty, envious .
That's better.
After all, it's a VERIFIABLE FACT that TJ is not unfunny. His posts are the source of endless amusement for the rest of ST.
Angsty, bitter, envious, unintentionally hilarious .
Right.
I love how the Parker homers are ecstatic about this deal too, theyre too blinded by their TP blinds to realize that unless this rook turns out to be a complete stud his first yr...the Spurs have just pulled the plug on making one last run next yr. But as long as Parker is safe and sound who cares right.
Solid bump
Hill winshare first year with Indiana: .152
Leonard winshare rookie season with SA: .171
TJastal
LMAOL Fkla.
Wow. After reading this thread, those two brought the terrible terrible bads.
They both are Parker haters, so it isn't surprising that they hated that trade. I'm just happy the Spurs stuck with Parker and traded for Kawhi. Any other move would have been a huge setback for the Spurs, IMO.
The George Hill is a PG take is pretty bad.
Hill is a SG he has no clue on how to run a team from PG spot. His ball handling and his passing abilities or better lack of are just to much to overcome at this level.
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fkla
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duncan2117
that's a gang tbh
to be fair, tony's got a lot of flaws in his character that makes him second to Chris Paul such as his inability to form chemsitry with guys. This year obviously he's doing a great job. His Chemistry with Kahwi is piss poor and goes as far as refusing to recognize match-up to just not wanting to pass. Manu's always been the better Quarter back, the better teamate, the better passer... but it's crazy to think that these two guys actually wanted a 35 year manu to shoulder the load.
TP is a top 2 guard and have always been a top 5 guard. George hill is also a borderline statrter..too much irrational hate fkla tjastal
i so regret not being on this forum when that trade went down
Turns out there were about three or four players better that Hill that were available, and we have to see how Joseph develops.Larry Bird said the Pacers have been trying to acquire Hill "the last couple of years," and felt he was better than any player available with the No. 15 pick. Indiana doesn't have a head coach yet, and roles are purely speculative (he could even fight for the starting PG job), but Hill's combo-guard versatility bodes well for his value.
They've been playing deep in the playoffs for the last couple of years. I love Cory, but he would have been a terrible move for a team who needed someone who could crack the rotation in a hurry.
And really, if he'd fallen just a little further to the second round, a lot of teams might have cut him already and he might be playing in Europe. Access to the Spurs player-development pipeline has been a huge asset to him after not getting any useful coaching in college and coming out too soon. Even Kawhi could have easily turned out worse on another team -- he fell because he didn't have an NBA-ready jumper.
Sure, but that doesn't make him a better player. Leonard, Parsons and Faried have all been starting for about as long as Hill has. Joseph is just a little behind Hill in his second year. He's just asked to do a lot less.
And Hill wasn't on the program's list of draftable players. Save perhaps the Celtics, Hill would have been a late-second-rounder had the Spurs not taken him at 28.And really, if he'd fallen just a little further to the second round, a lot of teams might have cut him already and he might be playing in Europe. Access to the Spurs player-development pipeline has been a huge asset to him after not getting any useful coaching in college and coming out too soon. Even Kawhi could have easily turned out worse on another team -- he fell because he didn't have an NBA-ready jumper.
Hill CAN'T play PG. I saw him game 1 of the ECF for the first pacers game I saw and I was just telling myself he was so out of position. The guy is a subpar ball handler that doesn't make good decisions period.
Typical. Why not quote DPGs posts for example, since he shared basically the same opinion regarding the trade ?
Let me guess, you knew this is exactly what would happen? From day one you though Leonard would blossom this much this soon ?
In hindsight it looks really good for the Spurs, but at the time with an aging core adding a rookie for their 4th best player didnt seem like the ideal route back to the Finals. Glad to have been wrong though tbh.
True enough. Though as far as Joseph goes, I certainly think it's fair to say that he would have helped a lot less with Indiana's 2012 playoff run than Hill did.
Whenever I encounter something like "Larry Bird... felt he was better than any player available with the No. 15 pick," I mentally subs ute something like "for what we're looking for." A project (even one who's developed remarkably quickly, as projects go) misses on that count. But yeah, that doesn't say anything about Leonard and the other players the Pacers (and many other teams) passed on.
Very true. Joseph was far from the first time that the Spurs hit on a player that other teams had rated very differently. That's most of the post-2000 history of the Spurs' successful player development.
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