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    Nobody can guard Dirk. I swear the guy has worked on his game to where he is a lot tougher to guard than in Bowen's day. He used to just hang around the perimeter, looking for his jump shot opportunities. Even then, Dirk got his points--Bowen was just able to keep them down sometimes from his average.

    Dirk now regularly posts up smaller, lighter players to get that short range step back jumper off one foot. That wasn't in the arsenal then. He also has developed his ability to drive to the basket as well as some good post moves near the basket.
    This is very interesting as I was thinking about this as well.

    One thing Bowen did differently is that when Dirk caught the ball at the elbow shielding Bowen with his back to the basket Bruce would then step in closer not allowing Dirk the room to jab step forward and get his feet set facing the basket. If Dirk brought the ball down to try and regain balance after receiving a pass Bowen would slap it loose. In effect he did not allow Dirk to get comfortably set and balanced, Dirk always appeared to be leaning backwards. If Dirk would hold the ball high and swing his elbows around to gain body position Bowen's face was waiting. If Dirk did try to just fall away Bowen would quickly move to the right side (ball side) of Dirk's body and pester. Dirk of course would still score, but Bowen cut off more options.
    I think the left side drive resulting in a baby hook or layup might be the key as you in effect stated. Dirk can still add the 15 foot bank shot to his arsenal, he has yet to use this effectively. This would again be almost impossible to stop as he could shoot the ball high like on his fall aways. Even though his shooting % was not great in the series with Miami his 4th quarters were so good he put the choke to rest. Amazing player...

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    Is Bruce Bowen still in good relations with Spurs organisation?
    I wonder if it's possible to ask him to work with Leonard. I mean stuff like H.Olajuwon did with Dwight or this summer with Gortat. Hmm.

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    Really guys? Compare Leonard to Bowen? Now?

    smh

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    Is Bruce Bowen still in good relations with Spurs organisation?
    I'm guessing no.

    He was questionably benched, then when he voluntarily retired had that ridiculed by Pop, and followed up by the Spurs giving some 10-day scrub his jersey number when it should be retired.

    Seems like he's on the Spurs S-list.

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    Ohhhh. You said something negative about POP wait for the homers to arrive.....

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    I'm guessing no.

    He was questionably benched, then when he voluntarily retired had that ridiculed by Pop, and followed up by the Spurs giving some 10-day scrub his jersey number when it should be retired.

    Seems like he's on the Spurs S-list.
    Bruce has made personal appearances on behalf of the team. I doubt he would do that were he on their list.

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    Doesnt mean he likes them. Just means he doesnt want to be unprofessional.

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    Doesnt mean he likes them. Just means he doesnt want to be unprofessional.
    Well, we can just add that to the pile of stupid you've said.

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    Is Bruce Bowen still in good relations with Spurs organisation?
    I wonder if it's possible to ask him to work with Leonard. I mean stuff like H.Olajuwon did with Dwight or this summer with Gortat. Hmm.
    Maybe he could teach Leonard his legendary feat of moving laterally quickly enough to keep up with an NBA quality player, without ever ever ever bending the knees.

    Try it and you'll look sort of like a awkward zombie or something. But move slowly or you'll break a leg.

    To be able to do that seems to defy nature as physically impossible-- not to mention that it goes against all coaching maxims about keeping your balance. And since people actually claim to have seen it and others believe that Bruce could do it, I have to accept accept it.

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    Maybe he could teach Leonard his legendary feat of moving laterally quickly enough to keep up with an NBA quality player, without ever ever ever bending the knees.

    Try it and you'll look sort of like a awkward zombie or something. But move slowly or you'll break a leg.

    To be able to do that seems to defy nature as physically impossible-- not to mention that it goes against all coaching maxims about keeping your balance. And since people actually claim to have seen it and others believe that Bruce could do it, I have to accept accept it.
    yes never ever ever never...

    Bruce had an unquie waystay very upright while moving laterally, thats all I am attempting to get across.And of course I would never attempt to teach failed sarcasm or altering the basic composition of a post either.

    Defy nature, sure...as longas your center of gravity is above your feet you defy nothing "pro-fessor".

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    [QUOTE=pgardn;5332334]yes never ever ever never...

    Bruce had an unquie waystay very upright while moving laterally, thats all I am attempting to get across....QUOTE]

    No, no don't back off of this now:

    "Defense without bending the knees in order to stay tall is not something that can be taught imo. Bruce could shuffle without bending his knees like some sort of river walk/dance freak, and Im not talking about our river walk."

    Besides, somebody else backed you up and said he saw it too. I don't remember Bruce lurching around on stiff legs personally, but by God, it must have been his trademark moves and I just missed it.

    But on reflection, I agree with you. I don't think it can be taught, will be taught or should be taught to most players. As you have said, Bruce was unique in that regard.

    "as longas your center of gravity is above your feet you defy nothing "pro-fessor"."

    As far as center of gravity is concerned, again I bow to your knowledge.

    I'd always been coached that by lowering my center of gravity (keep your butt down), the less likely I was to lose my balance or lateral quickness, but maybe Bruce's center of gravity was BELOW his feet and that accounts for his balance.

    After thinking about this issue, I went back and looked at videos of Leonard. It's scary. He's got the defensive stance all wrong--bent at the knees and in sort of a crouch. He looks ready to pounce, but I guess he'll never become a good defensive player in the NBA.

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