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    In Drought-Stricken Texas, Drillers Use Billions Of Gallons Of Water For Fracking

    The Texas Water Development Board estimates the total amount of water used for fracking statewide in 2010 was 13.5 billion gallons. That’s likely to more than double by 2020, and decline gradually each decade after that until dropping back down to current levels between 2050 and 2060.

    “We’re using scarce resources to get scarce resources,” said John Christmann, Permian Region vice president for Apache Corp., a Houston-based oil and gas company that operates in almost every West Texas county.

    http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/...-for-fracking/

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    Whatever the corps want, the corps get, and Human-Americans get screwed with the corps' externalized costs, eg, polluted water.

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    Frak:


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    To be honest, I tend to consume a lot of water after fracking my wife, too.

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    Is it required that the water be potable?

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    Not unless someone is going to climb to the bottom of their wells to drink it. Its really ed up if they're using potable water and there is access to non potable water. Really ed up.

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    Well that's what I'm trying to figure out. I wouldn't want boutons to lose sleep over this if non-potable water is ok and it's not being used.

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    Not unless someone is going to climb to the bottom of their wells to drink it. Its really ed up if they're using potable water and there is access to non potable water. Really ed up.
    Most of the time they can't use it.

    The water belongs to the landowners who are being compensated... and whom are getting wells drilled for their use later... for free.

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    Are any of them using recycled water?

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    Oh well. It's always gonna be something.

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    Are any of them using recycled water?
    They 1) aren't allowed to... used water must be hauled off as waste instead of being pumped back into the frak pit...

    and 2) usually can't... water comes back with rapidly increasing salinity... (and some formations drink a lot more than others)

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    Aren't allowed to? Why is it considered waste if it's being recycled into itself?

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    Aren't allowed to? Why is it considered waste if it's being recycled into itself?
    It's saline when it comes back... has to be taken to an approved disposal well to be put into another formation.

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    It's saline when it comes back... has to be taken to an approved disposal well to be put into another formation.
    Unless of course you have a massive boom, and loosely regulated drillers.

    Amazing what you can get away with when no one is looking. ( Deepwater horizon, cough cough)

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    Unless of course you have a massive boom, and loosely regulated drillers.

    Amazing what you can get away with when no one is looking. ( Deepwater horizon, cough cough)
    When in doubt make allegations of massive criminality and hope it is happening to justify your world view.

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    "It's saline when it comes back"

    only saline? what about all those secret, probably very nasty chemicals that the frackers refuse to divulge?

    and why did head get fracking exempted from Clean Water Act? did he and his Halliburton buddies already know fracking was polluting subsurface water resources?

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    Uhhh... Most of the fracs going on using "millions of gallons of water" are slick water fracs... which are just that... water...

    As to the other rambling... speak like an adult and you will get responded to. Your ignorance isn't cute enough for a pity response.

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    Uhhh... Most of the fracs going on using "millions of gallons of water" are slick water fracs... which are just that... water...
    Is that listed somewhere? I didn't know there was a requirement to say one is using unknown chemicals in a frac.

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    only saline? what about all those secret, probably very nasty chemicals that the frackers refuse to divulge?

    and why did head get fracking exempted from Clean Water Act? did he and his Halliburton buddies already know fracking was polluting subsurface water resources?

    http://www.propublica.org/series/bur...nmental-threat

    As always with carbon-extractors, assume they are guilty of lying and environmental destruction until THEY can prove otherwise.

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    As always with carbon-extractors, assume they are guilty of lying and environmental destruction until THEY can prove otherwise.
    Ahhh yes. The Enlightened Liberal worldview. Assume guilt because, regardless of any contrasting data, they are always guilty. ing flaming hypocrisy on display.

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    "contrasting data"

    what contrasting data is there that fracking is harmless to water supplies?

    If it's harmless, why was fracking explicitly exempted from Clean Water rules by head?

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    btw...alot of the recovered saline goes to watershed projects ala SACROC for recovery injection. That process has brought hundreds of millions of barrels into recovery in the Caprock and Permian Basin fields alone.

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    When in doubt make allegations of massive criminality and hope it is happening to justify your world view.
    When in doubt, use stawmen attacks to discredit or dismiss oppenents of your world view, and ignore any valid, reasonable points they might bring up.

    I am sure that the vast majority of drillers are doing a good, consciencious, and professional job.

    How many wells drilled by irresponsible, negligent, amateur, or crooked subcontractors would it take to contaminate any given local water table?

    How many new wells have been drilled using fracking in the last 5 years?

    How many long term studies of this drilling method have been done that provide solid data on the ultimate effects of this drilling technique on water supplies?

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    Is that listed somewhere? I didn't know there was a requirement to say one is using unknown chemicals in a frac.
    Unknown chemicals? Like the Chemials in fraccing gel... well... if you don't use fraccing gel (which slickwater fracs do not) then where would you get the chemicals... ?

    The chemicals for "gel" are mainly used to make the fluid hold heavier loads of "proppant" (sand) to hold fractures open.

    Many slickwater fracs (what is almost exclusively practiced in the Barnett Shale around DFW) dont even use any sand to hold fractures open... they just crack the rock with water and produce from there...

    Different reservoirs require different techniques however...

    If you believe oil companies are evil... you aren't going to listen to anything someone who has had experience with them is going to say though... so I'm wasting my time.

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