Freak storms will only get worse becase of global warming

[mouse]

I miss Global Warming. Wish it would return.

Antarctica awaits you.

[Wild Cobra]

LOL...

Do you think CO and fires = GW?

[mouse]

LOL...

Do you think CO and fires = GW?

Only people can prevent forest fires.





why would CO be any different?




how re ed does one have to be to not admit we are polluting our atmosphere?

[DarrinS]

I'm a bit surprised that Manny is starting to fall for this BS.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm not falling for anything, but ok. I'm open to the possibility that if it shows up over the coming years. We'll see.

[wannabe Moderator]

I miss Global Warming. Wish it would return.

[xrayzebra]

I'm not falling for anything, but ok. I'm open to the possibility that if it shows up over the coming years. We'll see.

Oh, pooh! What is a consensus of scientist to do when you have people
like this.

Is Britain about to be plunged into a Little Ice Age?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...e-Age-way.html

[rascal]

One major volcanic eruption does more to our planet's climate than everything mankind has pumped into the atmosphere since the Industrial Revolution.

Japan had an earthquake a few months ago that changed the rotation of the earth's axis.

And people are worried about what SUVs do to the climate of the world? Come on...

Our planet will be just fine. It'll still be here cranking out life long after mankind is gone from its face.

But the idea that we can redistribute wealth on a world wide basis and that will somehow make pollution go away is such a crock I don't even know where to begin. How is taking trillions of dollars in wealth and giving it to vested parties like Al Gore and his fellow "Greenies" who run "green" companies all over the world, or giving it to third world countries and their corrupt dictators to do crap with in their own countries going to change jack on this planet?

It's socialism and welfare redistribution under the guise of "saving the planet."

Socialism is good. The US has forms of socialism, it doesn't work any other way. Greed kills a complete capitalistic society where the few will hoard up all the assets.

[Wild Cobra]

Oh, pooh! What is a consensus of scientist to do when you have people
like this.

Is Britain about to be plunged into a Little Ice Age?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...e-Age-way.html

Isn't it funny how we have been saying the AGW scare is a farce, and the alarmists were always so condescending, and talking about consensus, and what-not.

Why are they so quiet now?

How long have I been saying that the Sun and soot are the major causes of warming, not CO2?

[boutons_deux]

"How is taking trillions of dollars in wealth and giving it to vested parties like Al Gore"

nobody's doing that strawman, so STFU

[Vici]

Isn't it funny how we have been saying the AGW scare is a farce, and the alarmists were always so condescending, and talking about consensus, and what-not.

Why are they so quiet now?

How long have I been saying that the Sun and soot are the major causes of warming, not CO2?

lol

I love how people on the internet pretend to know science.

[Wild Cobra]

lol

I love how people on the internet pretend to know science.

I do know science, far better than the average person.

[Vici]

I do know science, far better than the average person.

If that's true then how, in any possible way, does that article reenforce your view on GW/ AGW?

[Wild Cobra]

If that's true then how, in any possible way, does that article reenforce your view on GW/ AGW?

It doesn't.

Climate is always changing.

[SnakeBoy]

For the most part I've been very leery of attaching blame of any single weather event to climate change. However, if the pattern that has established itself over this year continues and see more extreme weather in the coming years then I will be more open to attributing the increase to the early stages of climate changes but each individual item will be nearly impossible to direct to AGW. We'll see, but the past year has been fairly nasty for extreme weather events.

Most of the recent extreme weather is directly related to the 2nd strongest La Nina on record. La Nina is gone and it's effects on the atmosphere continue to weaken. The models predict a normal fall/winter.
Even if we continue with strong La Nina/El Nino cycles there is no scientific evidence linking La Nina/El Nino cycles to global warming. I think you already know this though???

[Wild Cobra]

Most of the recent extreme weather is directly related to the 2nd strongest La Nina on record. La Nina is gone and it's effects on the atmosphere continue to weaken. The models predict a normal fall/winter.
Even if we continue with strong La Nina/El Nino cycles there is no scientific evidence linking La Nina/El Nino cycles to global warming. I think you already know this though???

Truth doesn't matter to the indoctrinated.

[boutons_deux]

"2nd strongest La Nina on record"

always skating away with short term events.

[Agloco]

"2nd strongest La Nina on record"

always skating away with short term events.

Because it is upon those that long term trends are built.

[boutons_deux]

La Nina/El Nino don't operate independently of global conditions, warming or cooling.

To claim that the strongest La Nina on record, and NOT global warming, is a cause of extreme weather events is silly.

[MannyIsGod]

Most of the recent extreme weather is directly related to the 2nd strongest La Nina on record. La Nina is gone and it's effects on the atmosphere continue to weaken. The models predict a normal fall/winter.
Even if we continue with strong La Nina/El Nino cycles there is no scientific evidence linking La Nina/El Nino cycles to global warming. I think you already know this though???

We'll just have to wait and see. It was a fairly abnormal year by anyone's standards and the La Nina wasn't any different from the 1970 and 1973 and only stronger than 1988. There's a lot of short term climate factors such a the NAO and PDO in addition to ENSO that can be used to explain why the weather is occurring. What I want to see is that if these patterns are changing on such a basis to where the situations that are conducive to extreme weather are becoming more prevalent. We'll tell over time but the past year has been quite extraordinary.

Also be careful when you say linked directly to ENSO. The reality is that statement is no different than saying a strong hurricane is directly due to climate change. You can't attribute any specific weather feature to a climate condition directly.

[MannyIsGod]

There is evidence that climate change is affecting some of these large oscillations as I have posted it prior as an effort to explain how AGW can cause colder winters in places. Its hard to imagine that ENSO is immune to rising global temps although its very difficult to say how it has been or how it will be affected.

[Agloco]

La Nina/El Nino don't operate independently of global conditions, warming or cooling.

To claim that the strongest La Nina on record, and NOT global warming, is a cause of extreme weather events is silly.

Most of the recent extreme weather is directly related to the 2nd strongest La Nina on record. La Nina is gone and it's effects on the atmosphere continue to weaken. The models predict a normal fall/winter.
Even if we continue with strong La Nina/El Nino cycles there is no scientific evidence linking La Nina/El Nino cycles to global warming. I think you already know this though???

I think you two need to have a talk over a few beers.