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uh nooooo
Interesting article i stumbled upon. So. Is TP still on the chopping block? We still need a Centre which Kamaan will fill nicely but who the will be starting PG, Mo Williams? Hope not. At least if this trade went down we'd get rid of RJ. But it'd leave us with a lineup of..
Chris Kamaan
Tm Duncan
Kawhi Leonard/FA SF
Manu Ginobili
Mo Williams/FA PG
2011 NBA Trade Rumors – Tony Parker to Clippers?
July 01, 2011 08:25 PM EDT
The NBA lockout has put a damper on trade season as the owners and players are both digging in and expecting a long lockout. Despite the recent bad news, fans still are looking at trades and free agent signings that could help their favorite team.
San Antonio made it clear before the draft that Tony Parker was on the trading block and though his backup was traded, it doesn't mean that Parker has played his last game in a Spurs uniform.
The latest rumor has Parker and Richard Jefferson packing their bags and heading to Los Angeles to play for the Clippers. In return, LA would send Chris Kamaan and Mo Williams to San Antonio.
This trade would give the Clippers the veterans they need to make a run at the playoffs and San Antonio would get a true center and some much-needed relief to the salary cap. This trade makes sense for both teams and could give the Clippers the needed talent to compete with the Lakers in the Pacific Division.
uh nooooo
I'm sure the Parker homers will be in here any moment to tell us this is all just a ruse to increase George Hill's trade value..
lol yeah probably. Anyway i just found the news and posted it asap. I don't know any further information hmm.
Wicked frontcourt of Kamaan, Duncan and Leonard if he is the superfreak we think he might be. Best frontourt in the NBA maybe.
But the backcourt? Hill Gone, Parker Gone. Leave us with Manu and Mo Williams? Weird. That cant be right.
No Mo.
Just so you know, that article was written based on this:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...lockout/page/7
...which is just a suggestion of which trades that someone at bleacherreport thinks should go down.
It would be the same as if someone wrote an article off of trade suggestions from posters here on SpursTalk.
I'm not saying that the Spurs wouldn't trade TP with RJ, if a deal was right. I'm just saying that this is just a fan's idea of which trades they think teams should make.
Thanks Kori i just read that article. Probably all bull then. Just a suggestion for the moment...for the moment.
Interesting nevertheless
Russo still digging I see.
I like Kaman. But Williams sucks.
Someone's been getting trade ideas off realgm again.
kaman=incredible mo williams={fart noises}
Trades aren't just a matter of ridding a team of a player fans don't like or just dumping a salary that's too high for the performance you are getting. It's also about ensuring our needs are filled. Our biggest need was SF. Right now RJ is our best player at that position. Hopefully Leonard becomes the player we need and want him to be. Once Leonard establishes his role, then I can see trading RJ. But we'd be right back at needing a backup SF. Until that happens, simply "giving" RJ away would seem to not be in the best interest of the team.
After this year, if there is a this year, we'll get a huge salary relief w Tim's expiring contract. We'll have manuvering room then to add some missing pieces. If we trade RJ, then I can only see that happening by sending TP with him. RJ's contract is that bad, given his performance. So then we'll have need at every position except SG. So we kinda almost have to stick w him and figure out how to get him to play like we know he can. That would seem easier than back filling the PG, SF and Tim's C/F role.
I like the trade. Yes, that's right, I like it.
Why? Several reasons...
Good big men are hard to find (somehow that sounds so gay). But, finding quality defensive, rebounding, space eating centers are very rare. Kaman is a former all star center and 6th overall pick that could compliment TD now and Splitter in the near future.
Second, servicable PGs are EASY to find. Parker was an unheard of Euroleague teen and 28th pick that turned into an elite All-star. George Hill was a 26th pick. Beno Udrih was a 28th pick. Leandro Barbosa, another 28th Spurs pick. Just about every late 1st round G the Spurs pick end up starting somewhere in the NBA. Keep in mind, the Spurs just picked up another PG this year. Mo Williams will be a FA in 2012 - one year of him is worth one w/ Kaman and the possibility of 3-4 more.
Which line-up looks better?
Parker
Ginobili
Jefferson
Splitter
Duncan
Williams
Anderson (w/ Ginobili as 6th man)
Leonard
Duncan (w/ Splitter playing 20 mpg)
Kaman
After 2012, the Spurs won't have TD as he will most likely be retired. Whether they like it or not, they are going to have to start trying and relying on younger guys to play, contend and win.
lol trick question? which lineup looks better? the one with the best player on the team starting or the one with an unproven 2nd year player starting? hmm
Kaman is rarely healthy and while he is decent, he is slow and plodding and not a great interior defender. Mo Williams is a soft scrub who disappears when it matters the most (like RJ). In fact, he is the PG version of Richard Jefferson.
I don't like it for 2 reasons.
1st
Kaman last 4 seasons (TOTAL - 328 games)
2008 - 56 games
2009 - 31 games
2010 - 76 games
2011 - 32 games
TOTAL - 195 games (59%)
The guy is totally injury-prone. If we want to gamble to give Timmy one last shot, fine. But not at the expense of Parker.
2o - Mo Williams is a mental midget just like Jefferson. We don't let go one mental midget to bring another one.
RJ's contract extends beyond 2012. Kaman and Williams will both be FAs in 2012.
The Spurs can no longer afford the "security blanket" of using proven veterans at every position. It's amazing how everyone mentions they need YOUTH but when they get it, everyone seems scared to play them claiming they're unproven.
You can't have it both ways...
and also lol at our starting pg being a ninja turtle. no thanks
You do if it's just one more season of it - RJ will be a Spur until traded or 2015.
FIFY. He didn't sign a 4 year extension, he voided his last year (2010-2011) and signed a 4 year deal, ending in 2014.
I stand corrected...
that's still 3 more seasons. If he's not traded now (while his contract is cheaper) what are the odds he'll be traded in the future as his contract gets more expensive.
I like Tony Parker - don't get me wrong. But you've got to trust that the Spurs FO will be able to find a starting quality PG (don't think replacement for TP as that might not ever happen) that's young, cheap and capable.
Again, PGs are EASY to find. EASY. When was the last time the Spurs didn't have a decent one - prior to Avery Johnson?
No you don't if you have to let go the best player in the trade.
Mo Williams has 2 years left of his contract, not only 1.
Kaman is not reliable at all and it's probably going to be a 1-year rental.
2 years of Mo Williams + 1 year of Kaman
or
3 years of Jefferson + Tony Parker
I'd rather have the last option.
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