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    Your hypothesis, your homework. Get em tiger!

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    I look forward to seeing what you have learned from researching the last 40 years.

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    Wouldn't a proper (full, longtime) study by a couple of recognized en ies make sense before deployment? Is it too much to ask? Now you have the NIST saying they didn't say what the TSA say they did.

    smh
    Yes, but at the very least there should be some data about he commissioning process at each site. Since they were in a rush to develop and deploy it, the least they could do is give each operator and any employee who was going to near near it ( say roughly <20ft) a heads up about how those things work.

    Man o man.

    They've secured the pits, and the terrorists cannot guide a plane any longer. I say go back to the security before 9/11. Sure, it's possible they will blow up a plane, but for just a few hundred innocent, there are easier targets if they want to kill someone. At least it won't be thousands.

    This has become too high a price in loss of freedom.
    Ok.
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    Your hypothesis, your homework. Get em tiger!
    At least get the hypothesis right.

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    So, is the data phobic or not? You've posted -all so far.

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    Your references to data and research seem to be pretentious fig leaves for a begged question.

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    So, is the data phobic or not? You've posted -all so far.
    phobic?

    WH has Freudian slip.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...aft_hijackings

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    Oh, and there have been no hijackings by 95 year old women or toddlers.

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    (In fairness, brazenly assuming data you have never seen backs up your bull , is more your style.)

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    Got me. Islamophobic.

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    (In fairness, brazenly assuming data you have never seen backs up your bull , is more your style.)
    Uh, ok. El Al airlines profiles young, Muslim males and hasn't had a single incident in over 30 years. Probably just coincidence though.


    But, like I said, just use dogs and no ones "feewings" get hurt.

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    Impressive research. High tide of hijackings in the US seems to be the 1970's. Oh, and no US planes hijacked since 2001.

    Thanks for setting my mind at ease, Darrin. The TSA must be doing a of a job.

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    Uh, ok. El Al airlines profiles young, Muslim males and hasn't had a single incident in over 30 years. Probably just coincidence though.
    We're not Israel. Vive la difference.

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    The problem with more dogs is that Chertoff won't me making multi-million dollars per unit and maintenance, AFAIK.

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    Hiyohh!

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    Nigerian flies N.Y. to L.A. with old boarding pass not in his name

    A Nigerian man flew from New York to Los Angeles using an expired boarding pass that belonged to someone else, media outlets reported Thursday morning. Olajide Oluwaseun Noibi reportedly boarded Virgin American Flight 415 at New York's JFK International Airport bound for Los Angeles on Friday.

    At this time, investigators are suggesting that Noibi is a tourist rather than a terrorist. Noibi apparently went through and cleared the physical screening process, but no one caught the invalid travel do ents.

    It wasn't until after the flight took off that attendants realized an extra passenger was on board, officials said. During the flight, crew members asked Noibi for his boarding pass and, after hesitating, he handed over a boarding pass from the day before, KTLA quotes FBI officials as confirming. That boarding pass had another person's name on it.

    Noibi allegedly told the crew that the pass was outdated because he had missed that flight a day earlier.

    The man whose name was on the boarding pass later told FBI officials that the do ent had disappeared from his back pocket when he arrived at JFK International Airport on June 23.

    On arrival in Los Angeles, Noibi left the airport without being detained.

    He was arrested after he returned to LAX on Wednesday and attempted to board a Delta flight bound for Atlanta, again using an expired boarding pass, FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller told KTLA.

    Noibi allegedly told authorities he was traveling to Los Angeles to recruit people for his software business.

    A search of Noibi's bags at LAX turned up more than 10 boarding passes with various individuals' names, none of which were his own, FBI officials said.

    Noibi is being held at the Los Angeles County Men's Detention Center, according to reports.

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    Our hard earned tax dollars at work, hiring Jerry's Children as TSA screeners.

    Oooppps...

    Didn't mean to offend Jerry's Children.

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    Well, you just did.

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    America the Vulnerable: Government Does Nothing as Right Wing Violence Surges

    That's exactly the kind of violence that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) warned law enforcement agencies about two years ago in a report about the growing threat of terrorism from right-wing extremists.

    But after that 2009 report was leaked to the media, conservative groups and politicians complained — quite wrongly — that it unfairly tarred those on the political right as violent extremists. The American Legion, for example, didn't like the report's assertion that extremists would be interested in recruiting veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan, even though it was completely accurate.

    Rather than defend the report, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano quickly disavowed it — and criticized it as shoddy work that had not been properly reviewed within the agency.

    Bowing to misguided political criticism was bad enough. Now we know that the DHS went much further: It gutted the unit that developed intelligence on the activities of non-Islamic domestic extremists — making it much harder to catch the next Timothy McVeigh before he strikes.

    http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/151437

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    Having completely blown homeland defense on 9/11, the FBI lies about the "terrorists" that it "stops", nothing but fraud (I guess this puts me on the FBI watch list). FBI would certainly be sucking down all posts from a "politics" forum. Feel violated, yet?

    5 Outrageous Examples of FBI Intimidation and Entrapment

    1. FBI’s Use of Warrantless GPS Tracking

    2. FBI Targeting WikiLeaks and Bradley Manning Supporters

    3. FBI Spied on Children While Using 'Roving Wiretaps,' Intentionally Misled Courts on Freedom of Information Act Requests

    4. FBI Entrapment of Muslims

    5. The Criminalization of Travel by the FBI

    http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/151468
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    Having completely blown homeland defense on 9/11, the FBI lies about the "terrorists" that it "stops", nothing but fraud (I guess this puts me on the FBI watch list). FBI would certainly be sucking down all posts from a "politics" forum. Feel violated, yet?

    5 Outrageous Examples of FBI Intimidation and Entrapment

    1. FBI’s Use of Warrantless GPS Tracking

    2. FBI Targeting WikiLeaks and Bradley Manning Supporters

    3. FBI Spied on Children While Using 'Roving Wiretaps,' Intentionally Misled Courts on Freedom of Information Act Requests

    4. FBI Entrapment of Muslims

    5. The Criminalization of Travel by the FBI

    http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/151468
    You're being a tad bit melodramatic here no?

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    You're being a tad bit melodramatic here no?
    That's his M.O.

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    Why Do the Police Have Tanks? The Strange and Dangerous Militarization of the US Police Force

    The majority of paramilitary drug raid proponents maintain that military-style law enforcement is required to reduce the risk of potential violence, injury and death to both police officers and innocents. The reality is that SWAT team raids actually escalate provocation, usually resulting in senseless violence in what would otherwise be a routine, nonviolent police procedure.

    http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/151528

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    The US is now a complete police state. No need to respect posse comitatus. The police force is as equipped as the military, and with the same collateral damages and deaths.

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    "A Continental Airlines employee Monday caught Nelson Santiago-Serrano, 30, stealing an iPad from a suitcase in Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, according to the Broward County Sheriff's Office. Over the past six months, Santiago-Serrano told authorities he stole $50,000 worth of computers, GPS devices and other electronics from luggage he screened, took pictures of them to post for sale online and sold the items often by the time his shift ended."

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