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So they couldn't keep up and are declined in the cherry picked ranking.
Exactly what I said.
Were they ranked #52 in 2008, yes or no?
So your rationale isn't based on anything other than a gut feeling. Thought so.
Yes, intellectual dishonesty. Their HDI value increased. Someone elses just increased more.
My rational has to do with all the war activity occurring. If you think it won't have a harsh effect on the daily lives of the people, as an average, then I'd like some of what ever you're smoking.
So they couldn't keep up and are declined in the cherry picked ranking.
Exactly what I said.
Were they ranked #52 in 2008, yes or no?
So your rationale isn't based on anything other than a gut feeling. Thought so.
same coulda been said bout saddam
I'm sure the US will diligently look up the HGI index of a country before future military interventions, regardless whether the leader of the country is a ruthless dictator or not...
LOL...
They increased the HDI value. Very simple. It was 0.726 in 2005, 0.749 2009, and 0.755 in 2010. Panama was 0.724, 0.751, and 0.755 during the same period. I didn't see where you got the 2008 numbers from. What did I miss?
I don't know. Again, where did you see that.
I was specifying their HDI rating. Not their position. It doesn't matter that someone outpaced them. The fact is their HDI index is increasing, not decreasing.
WTF...
Yes, my gut feeling is that war harms an economy that it is fought in.
Do you disagree?
I doubt it.
That's pretty much the first thing that is done in establishing and maintaining a no fly zone.
You missed answering the question, which was pretty easy BTW, seeing you posted the information.
Were they ranked #52 in 2008 and #53 now?
Yes or No. Simple question, simple answer.
My gut feeling is that no serious nation makes military decisions on attacking a dictator based solely on HGI rankings.
The humanitarian disaster in East Africa is much worse than Khadafi slaughtering Libyans, but there's not much or any oil in East Africa.
HGI? GMAFB, it's all about corporate grabs for oil and gas, which also why UCA was silent as SA crushed the Bahraini protesters.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14009206Turkey has recognised the rebel Transitional National Council as the true representative of Libya's people.
Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said it was time for the Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi to go.
Turkey has pledged a further $200m in aid for the rebels in addition to $100m announced last month.
In another development, the rebels have rejected an initiative by the African Union to sponsor talks between them and the government in Tripoli.
http://tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=1&i=6311Following Turkey's official recognition of the NTC 17 countries have so far recognised the Libyan Council as Libya’s sole and legitimate representative since the beginning of the conflict on February 15.
The others are: France (March 10), Qatar (March 28), Maldives (April 3), Italy (April 4), Kuwait (April 4), Gambia (April 22), United Kingdom (May 12), Jordan (May 24), Senegal (May 28), Malta (June 1), Spain (June 8, Australia (June 9), United States (June 9), UAE (June 12), Germany June 13, and Canada (June 14).
No surprise, a Catholic bishop supporting Kadafi because Kadafi let a little bit of Catholicism operate in Libya.
As we saw with the bishops-protected-for-decades priestly pedophilia crimes, the Catholic Church is nothing more than yet another corrupt, authoritarian political organization that places its own existence way above the rights and respect for (Catholic or any) individuals.
I missed seeing that. So what. It doesn't matter. Their rating continued to increase. I am not accepting your argument that they declined just because someone else took a spot higher than them. I don't grade on a bell curve. Never liked people who do.
I agree, not solely on. However, my point of bringing this up is to show he is not a brutal dictator like he is being portrayed as. He is perhaps brutal to those undermining his government, but as I said, people in that culture know the laws and what happens if caught. I bring it up because I do not believe the basis of these attacks. Something else is going on.
I think the HGI index is real important to consider here. I think it should be obvious that if he was as bad as made out to be, that such a high rating would never exist.
Let me ask you this. Has NATO, the UN, or us ever attacked a nation in past history with a high HGI rating? Ever before?
I didn't look, but I'll bet the answer is NO!
I'll bet this is the first time in history.
You're still dodging the question.I missed seeing that.
Case closed.
Good article. Looks like the Bishop and I are on the same wavelength.
Repeat the question.
Hardly. I think because other situations were different, they never considered this factor.
The life people live in Libya is contrary to the idea of him attacking civilians.
For those who like to talk about False Flag operations...
I say if innocent people were killed, someone else did it.
So it's ok to attack a country and cause unrest if an HGI rating is low?
The point I'm trying to make is that is a nation has a rating of "HIGH" for an HGI like Libya does, then there needs to be an exceptionally good reason to take military action against them. I don't see that here.So it's ok to attack a country and cause unrest if an HGI rating is low?
"exceptionally good reason"
the dictator slaughtering protesters by 100s or 1000s?
or how about $Ts in oil and gas reserves? good enough?
That's right.
Take away the guns from the rebels after they are shot, removing the evidence, and they get reported as innocent protesters.
The $trillions in oil might be good enough for you, but not me. Why not just take over an African nation that has big diamond mines instead?
A recent news article has accounts that Gaddafi's forces are attacking in response to rebel attacks. Just another account that he is not the aggressor in my view.
Libyan rebels push towards Tripoli on two fronts
I will repeat this again. The rebels are more extreme worshipers of Islam. If they take over Libya, I am certain the nation will, become far worse than today, and could become a hotbed of terrorists.
A snippet from Fearing God, Not Gaddafi: Libya's New Mujahedin:
For those of you who admire the Huff~n~Puff Post, Anti-American Extremists Among Libyan Rebels U.S. Has Vowed To Protect:Islamist extremism does, however, have roots in Libya. The town of Darnah, up the road going east from Benghazi, was the site of a failed Islamist uprising against Gaddafi in the 1990s. Later, it became known for the young men who left it to join the insurgency in Iraq. "If you asked any of the mujahedin from Libya in Iraq where they're from, they said Darnah," says Mohamed el-Tahawy, a banker who drove from the eastern city of Tobruk to join the battle in Ras Lanuf. He adds that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the fearsome leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq who was killed in 2006, once said, "I will go to Darnah to see what is this city that is sending so many."
Abu-Bakr was one of hundreds of foreign fighters who flocked into the killing zones of Iraq to wage war against the “infidels." They came from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Oman, Algeria and other Islamic states. But on a per capita basis, no country sent more young fighters into Iraq to kill Americans than Libya -- and almost all of them came from eastern Libya, the center of the anti-Gaddafi rebellion that the United States and others now have vowed to protect, according to internal al Qaeda do ents uncovered by U.S. intelligence.Do we really want to support these rebels, who are extreme in their religion?Today, there is little doubt that eastern Libya, like other parts of the Arab world, is experiencing a genuine burst of anti-totalitarian fervor, expressed in demands for political freedom and economic reforms. But there also is a dark history to eastern Libya, which is the home of the Islamic Libyan Fighting Group, an anti-Gaddafi organization officially designated by the State Department as a terrorist organization.
Yep, we did a bang up job of taking out their flying tanks.
US formally recognizes the rebels:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...y.html?hpid=z4
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