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    Splitter sucks...we need someone better than his frail ass in the lineup. Athletic 4 badly
    What are you, a craigslist ad?

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    IF the spurs had a young coach...and this coach was like a Nate McMillan or the young coach from new orleans...or even the young indiana coach...

    they would at least throw Tiago on dirk and just let him foul out a few times...what's to lose?

    but I guara-damn-tee you that after a coupla' times Tiago would begin to do pretty well...he has the foot speed, the intelligence, the craftiness, the savvy ...to at least play a respectable defensive game ---


    IF GIVEN THE IN' PLAYING TIME....A LOT OF PLAYING TIME TO FEEL AT HOME ON THE COURT!
    I agree %100!
    What is there to lose at this point? We haven't won since 07, so why not experiment with Tiago and Tim? in just play them and see what happens. We already seen the Tim and Bonner/Mcdyss story many times and know how it ends every year. I wanna see how the Spurs do with Tiago win or lose. Play that guero until he passes out or fouls out every game.

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    I agree %100!
    What is there to lose at this point? We haven't won since 07, so why not experiment with Tiago and Tim? in just play them and see what happens. We already seen the Tim and Bonner/Mcdyss story many times and know how it ends every year. I wanna see how the Spurs do with Tiago win or lose. Play that guero until he passes out or fouls out every game.
    If you look back a few years...Bynum was a foul-prone clumsy oft-injured scrub...

    but he was given ample playing time...

    now he is scaring the outta gm's and he is an oft-injured soon to be all-star...

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    I don't think Splitter and Duncan could start together effectively. Don't get me wrong; it'd be 100x better than starting Bonner next to Tim, but neither Tim nor Tiago can guard the 4. That's why I'd kill to get Varejao on the team next season. Tiago definitely needs the chance to be playing major minutes next season though. He could be on the floor any time Tim is off and they could play together when the other team doesn't have an athletic 4 out there. Even that could be a stretch though, since I think they'd get in each other's way in the offense.

    The younger McDyess comment made me laugh; his name is Amare Stoudemire, and no way the Spurs are pulling him from the Knicks for anyone on the roster.
    Very well said.

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    If you look back a few years...Bynum was a foul-prone clumsy oft-injured scrub...

    but he was given ample playing time...

    now he is scaring the outta gm's and he is an oft-injured soon to be all-star...
    Yup! That's how you learn the NBA game by getting playing time. That's what the Spurs should of done with Mahinmi when he was here, then maybe he could of hit a clutch jumper for the Spurs instead of the Mavs. I dont understand how some players get more leeway than others. Why is Matt Bonner given more chances and oppurtunities to learn through his mistakes and somebody like Mahinmi not? I sometimes think it's a race thing. Matt Bonner is your good ole American white boy, while Mahinmi was your french, whipping boy field negro.

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    I don't think Splitter and Duncan could start together effectively. Don't get me wrong; it'd be 100x better than starting Bonner next to Tim, but neither Tim nor Tiago can guard the 4. That's why I'd kill to get Varejao on the team next season. Tiago definitely needs the chance to be playing major minutes next season though. He could be on the floor any time Tim is off and they could play together when the other team doesn't have an athletic 4 out there. Even that could be a stretch though, since I think they'd get in each other's way in the offense.

    The younger McDyess comment made me laugh; his name is Amare Stoudemire, and no way the Spurs are pulling him from the Knicks for anyone on the roster.
    Varejao would be nice, but we are going to play with what we have for now, and that's Tim, Bonner, Blair, and Tiago. Do you really wanna see Tim and Bonner get embarrased for a fifth or fourth year in a roll in the playoffs? What athletic fours do you speak of(David West/Amare?)? The wests top contenders(Lakers, Mavs, Grizz, Thunder) all have tall lineups. Maybe in the regular season they'll struggle against some teams with quick athletic fours(but i doubt any of those teams are threats in the playoffs.You have to go big in the playoffs.

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    Yup! That's how you learn the NBA game by getting playing time. That's what the Spurs should of done with Mahinmi when he was here, then maybe he could of hit a clutch jumper for the Spurs instead of the Mavs. I dont understand how some players get more leeway than others. Why is Matt Bonner given more chances and oppurtunities to learn through his mistakes and somebody like Mahinmi not? I sometimes think it's a race thing. Matt Bonner is your good ole American white boy, while Mahinmi was your french, whipping boy field negro.
    Probably not racial...Pop had Finley as his true love before Bonner...

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    Pop loves offence these days, thats why bonner>mhinmi>spliter>etc.

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    The Spurs haven't won a single game in the second round since 2008.

    Think about that for a second.

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    I don't think it's a race thing either, I mean we traded one white dude in Rasho for another white dude in Matt Bonner, and both players at one point were not the biggest fan favorites to us or the coaching staff. Think it has more to do with Duncan not physically able to play the position of power forward any more (which is why I have a hard time seeing Splitter starting next to him), combined with Pop & Crew years ago having fallen in the love with having an Horry type player paired with Tim. Bonner started a total of less than 1% of the 150+ games he played in Toronto, and by his third season in SA he was trotted out as basically the full-time starting C. Kind of a shame that he's provided so much to our, for lack of a better term, losing culture (in the playoffs), yet we see a player like Hill traded away.

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    I don't think it's a race thing either, I mean we traded one white dude in Rasho for another white dude in Matt Bonner, and both players at one point were not the biggest fan favorites to us or the coaching staff. Think it has more to do with Duncan not physically able to play the position of power forward any more (which is why I have a hard time seeing Splitter starting next to him), combined with Pop & Crew years ago having fallen in the love with having an Horry type player paired with Tim. Bonner started a total of less than 1% of the 150+ games he played in Toronto, and by his third season in SA he was trotted out as basically the full-time starting C. Kind of a shame that he's provided so much to our, for lack of a better term, losing culture (in the playoffs), yet we see a player like Hill traded away.

    Bonner and "Horry type player" should never be used in the same paragraph. It's an insult to Horry and the game of basketball.

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    Bonner and "Horry type player" should never be used in the same paragraph. It's an insult to Horry and the game of basketball.
    bonnger is an insult to the game of basketball

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    Come on man, there's not many people on this Earth that can guard Nowitzki, that's not really a fair judgement of Splitter's skills. Right now, he's our second best big, put him out there.
    It isn't just Nowitski. He was overwhelmed against most starters last year and putting him out there as one is just setting him up for failure. Any 7-footer that has to resort to flopping because he's incapable of blocking a shot or can't physically matchup with his opponent shouldn't be in the starting lineup. He brings very little to the table both offensively and defensively. Splitter tries and his hearts in the right place but the Spurs can't win with good intentions.

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    It isn't just Nowitski. He was overwhelmed against most starters last year and putting him out there as one is just setting him up for failure. Any 7-footer that has to resort to flopping because he's incapable of blocking a shot or can't physically matchup with his opponent shouldn't be in the starting lineup. He brings very little to the table both offensively and defensively. Splitter tries and his hearts in the right place but the Spurs can't win with good intentions.
    Firstly, I disagree with him being "overwhelmed" by most starters. I think he did an extremely serviceable job out there. Secondly, he doesn't 'resort' to flopping, he's a euro player and that's just the culture, and it works. I hate it as much as the next guy, but it's now part of the game. I'm not trying to nominate the guy for an all-star bid, all I'm saying is he's the second best big that we have, so we might as well play him. If you want to complain about not being able to block a shot, you'll have to put the blame where it belongs. Pop has instructed every big player since D-Rob to stand straight up with your arms up and not go for the block.

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    Tiago can most definitely guard the four...way in better than Bonner,Dice,Blair and even Timmy.

    The only in' person that thinks he can't...is that in idiot Pop...and then everybody believes this ...

    Pop already hinted that Tim & Tiago will NOT be paired together...yet Monroe and everyone else here will think this actually means that Pop will pair Timmy & Tiago...

    this is what will frustrate the out of me the next season...that Pop will NEVER in' see the obvious.
    Excuse me, but I don't understand what you are trying to say. ???

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    If we have a season at all I hope Tiago plays at least 25 minutes per game. I would like him to start next to Tim, but if Dice retires and we do not add a servicable big man, it might be better to play the combos Duncan/Blair and Splitter/Bonner.

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    I'm really liking Jason Thompson as that athletic 4/5th big. I hope the Spurs can find a way to attain him from the Kings.

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    Sooner or later - you gotta give everyone on the team some quality minutes or at least a DEEP look in practice to see what they got. It's Tiago's time.

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    Tim likely won't play more than 25 MPG. so there will be a lot of minutes at C left, also against the other teams starter(s). it won't be Tim+Tiago and Bonner+Blair, even if Tiago is going to start.
    however, the big rotation still isn't well balanced, especially on offense.
    Spurs need a starting caliber big (I guess someone mentioned that a younger version of Dice would be the right fit).
    what we can offer is a Blair+Dice contract package. could sweeten with the 2012 pick.
    btw. this isn't a great package, but it isn't totally garbage either.

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    Splitter likely to start.

    For Brazil.

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    The Spurs haven't won a single game in the second round since 2008.

    Think about that for a second.
    And yet some people still think spurs are a championship contending team with the current roster and lineups... it boggles my mind. And also now adding in mind that Spurs key players will be yet another year older.

    If it just wasn't for late those late season injuries..(sarcasm)

    Spurs have allot more work to do then allot of people think to become a dominant threat in the NBA again.

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    I don't think Splitter and Duncan could start together effectively. Don't get me wrong; it'd be 100x better than starting Bonner next to Tim, but neither Tim nor Tiago can guard the 4. That's why I'd kill to get Varejao on the team next season. Tiago definitely needs the chance to be playing major minutes next season though. He could be on the floor any time Tim is off and they could play together when the other team doesn't have an athletic 4 out there. Even that could be a stretch though, since I think they'd get in each other's way in the offense.

    The younger McDyess comment made me laugh; his name is Amare Stoudemire, and no way the Spurs are pulling him from the Knicks for anyone on the roster.
    Except amare has never played D. Or even rebounded that well for his position.

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    ItThe difference now is that Pop says things that don't make sense because he has completely lost his mind...

    and the Spurs will continue to be mediocre - at best.

    It sucks...but it is what it is.
    60+ wins and a mediocre 1 seed in the West absolutely sucks major ass.

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    Except amare has never played D. Or even rebounded that well for his position.
    That is true; it's too bad, since he had all the physical tools to be an incredible defender. Amare was considered a monster defensive prospect in high school, but playing for D'Antoni ruined him. Had he played for a competent coach he'd probably be a perennial MVP candidate.

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    60+ wins and a mediocre 1 seed in the West absolutely sucks major ass.
    With the talent that has been on these spurs team...Pop in his prime...or any other young coach on top of his game would have resulted in les...

    in...

    2008

    2010

    2011


    So Pop has completely underachieved.

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