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That is sad.
best years of my life
Injuries = more costly with helmet use on motorcycles IMO...
helmet accident: fractured bones throughout body, internal damage, potential facial injuries if helmet only covers head, large medical bill$
non-helmet accident: death
That is sad.
You still didn't tell us how the accident happened.
Your same concerns happen with car and bicycle accidents all the time.
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Last edited by SnakeBoy; 07-07-2011 at 06:38 PM.
^Gr8 posts bro.
Yeah maybe just a bit too much on second thought. Should have just said riding a motorcycle is dangerous with or without a helmet.
Exactly right.
Not true. And there's data to prove it: http://www.neuroskills.com/pr-motorcyclehelmet.shtml
The only potential benefit: if the cyclist was an organ donor.
Well I agree that it would seem that way, but just like wearing a helmet does not guarantee no injuries, not wearing a helmet does not guarantee death either; most of the time the injuries are exactly as you listed above plus head/brain trauma.
Oh stop it with your facts and research. Let natural selection play its role.
not sure I've ever seen another poster on such a consistent basis use so many words yet not say anything.Which is why my friend was able to win his appeal... the second judge was more understanding (and the lie detector test was admitted as evidence in the second trial on account of the accident not having any witnesses... the test helped him confirm his statement that he hadn't been drinking or speeding the night of the accident). Like I said, the first trial had the stench of a mis-trial from the get-go...
I called up my friend in light of all the I'm getting here (curiously enough, he's living in NY these days...) I didn't want to bring up the subject (still a touchy subject for him), but he clarified the fact that the officer thought he was drunk simply because he had vomited and had problems standing up (again, despite no formal field sobriety test being administered)... This he said stemmed from the fact that he was pretty shaken up (emotionally) about the whole incident... he couldn't breathe, he couldn't speak or even think properly... I mean, he had just seen another guy's brains splattered all over the asphalt... an image which I'm sure would cause others here to throw up as well...
Overraction Manny? Yes, you make it sound like an inquisition... Now I'm supposed to provide you all the details of an incident such as this one as the proper preface to a comment that "perhaps a motorcyclist's death can cause more of a legal headache than anyone would want?" Ummm yeah... I didn't get your memo requesting that context specifity for anything we post in the forum...
I know you enjoy arguing for argument's sake, but seriously dude...? My first post was just a comment... I wasn't advocating the need for a helmet law any more than arguing against one... the context of my friend's case, while certainly a data point in my opinion, was only brought out because someone assumed my comment was born out of (far-fetched) paranoia... When I said it had a basis, most everyone on here started assuming (again) that 'if my friend had been convicted that obviously he was in the wrong'... and somehow I was left having to explain the whole incident from scratch...
The problem is not that I don't expect others to disagree with a comment (someone out will always disagree about anything and everything)... the problem is that the initial rebuttals never asked for clarification of any sort; instead they lashed out with unnecessary mockery...
whatever..
If you really think about it you'd think there wouldn't be any reason to need a helmet law. Hit your head against a rock without a helmet and then with one on. Issue solved as far as I'm concerned.
Not everyone here is as stupid as you...
or as bitter...
or as unrelentingly spiteful...
Ahora si, corto y al punto... ¿Comprendes eso?
Too lazy to read it, but this caught my eye:
Which is why my friend was able to win his appeal... the second judge was more understanding (and the lie detector test was admitted as evidence in the second trial on account of the accident not having any witnesses... the test helped him confirm his statement that he hadn't been drinking or speeding the night of the accident). Like I said, the first trial had the stench of a mis-trial from the get-go...
I called up my friend in light of all the I'm getting here (curiously enough, he's living in NY these days...) I didn't want to bring up the subject (still a touchy subject for him), but he clarified the fact that the officer thought he was drunk simply because he had vomited and had problems standing up (again, despite no formal field sobriety test being administered)... This he said stemmed from the fact that he was pretty shaken up (emotionally) about the whole incident... he couldn't breathe, he couldn't speak or even think properly... I mean, he had just seen another guy's brains splattered all over the asphalt...an image which I'm sure would cause others here to throw up as well...
Overraction Manny? Yes, you make it sound like an inquisition...Now I'm supposed to provide you all the details of an incident such as this one as the proper preface to a comment that "perhaps a motorcyclist's death can cause more of a legal headache than anyone would want?" Ummm yeah... I didn't get your memo requesting that context specifity for anything we post in the forum...
I know you enjoy arguing for argument's sake, but seriously dude...? My first post was just a comment... I wasn't advocating the need for a helmet law any more than arguing against one... the context of my friend's case, while certainly a data point in my opinion, was only brought out because someone assumed my comment was born out of (far-fetched) paranoia... When I said it had a basis, most everyone on here started assuming (again) that 'if my friend had been convicted that obviously he was in the wrong'... and somehow I was left having to explain the whole incident from scratch...
The problem is not that I don't expect others to disagree with a comment (someone out will always disagree about anything and everything)... the problem is that the initial rebuttals never asked for clarification of any sort; instead they lashed out with unnecessary mockery...
whatever..
Someone else noticed this.Not everyone here is as stupid as you...
or as bitter...
or as unrelentingly spiteful...
Ahora si, corto y al punto... ¿Comprendes eso?
Hey, Blake....go and get you some already.
I'll ask the non-bitter, non-spiteful question yet again:Not everyone here is as stupid as you...
or as bitter...
or as unrelentingly spiteful...
Ahora si, corto y al punto... ¿Comprendes eso?
What exactly was your friend charged with?
It's ok to say "I'd rather not talk about it."
That would be better than a page long post discussing how your friend is sad and you think he got screwed.
Someone else is butthurt about silly messageboard postings.
lol uptight asshole
ER nurses have a nickname for Motorcycles:
Donorcycles
I want to start riding and will probably not wear a helmet on most short trips and I am Natural Selections biggest proponent. I'd take riding happy and dieing over going for a baseball and falling to my death tbh.
If you haven't ridden before start with a bike with an easy learning curve. Mine was a real pain to learn and I found out that the bike would have been better for a real advanced rider. Like the throttle was so tight that if you barely turned it the bike would jump out and changing gears required real precision timing. Also, get a sport bike people who drive harleys in movies are cool IRL only dirtbags and posers drive harleys.
Great trolling.
But seriously, I'm only like 24 so when I get married and have kids will be better honestly. I live in a better home in a nice neighborhood now, But I worked like 15 hours a week then, scheduled all my classes on tue and thur and had summers off so we could basically chill out like all the time and what with pell grant $, $ from our parents, and food stamps etc we got by fine. The summers were awesome. I would love to be one of those s who changes careers five times and goes back to college just for that reason, but unfortunately I like the job I have a lot now
Everything is politics with this guy.
I still want to know the nature of Phenomanul friend's accident.
How did it happen, who was at fault, etc.
Was he following too close or poll positioning by chance?
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