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Death Penalty, Still Racist and Arbitrary
LAST week was the 35th anniversary of the return of the American death penalty. It remains as racist and as random as ever.
Several years after the death penalty was reinstated in 1976, a University of Iowa law professor, David C. Baldus (who died last month), along with two colleagues, published a study examining more than 2,000 homicides that took place in Georgia beginning in 1972. They found that black defendants were 1.7 times more likely to receive the death penalty than white defendants and that murderers of white victims were 4.3 times more likely to be sentenced to death than those who killed blacks.
In Texas, though, they do come close. In 2008, the district attorney of Harris County, Chuck Rosenthal, resigned after news emerged that he had sent and received racist e-mails. His office had sought the death penalty in 25 cases; his successor has sought it in 7. Of the total 32 cases, 29 involve a nonwhite defendant.
Since 1976, Texas has carried out 470 executions (well more than a third of the national total of 1,257). You can count on one hand the number of those executions that involved a white murderer and a black victim and you do not need to use your thumb, ring finger, index finger or pinkie.
Well, you might need the pinkie. On June 16, Texas executed Lee Taylor, who at age 16 beat an elderly couple while robbing their home. The 79-year-old husband died of his injuries. Mr. Taylor was sentenced to life in prison; there he joined the Aryan Brotherhood, a white gang, and, four years into his sentence, murdered a black inmate and was sentenced to death. When Mr. Taylor was executed, it was reported that he was the second white person in Texas executed for killing a black person. Actually, he should be counted as the first. The other inmate, Larry Hayes, executed in 2003, killed two people, one of whom was white.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/09/op...gewanted=print
blake wears a bicycle helmet when playing the drums.
Yeah, statistics and facts are one and the same...yeah, science and facts don't mean !
Yes, they are.
The statistic that says Texas murder rate is the highest is NOT a fact. Its a statistic.
Oh man.
Get out in the real world...The statistic that says Texas murder rate is the highest is NOT a fact. Its a statistic.
Oh man.
anyone can use statistics for their agenda...
the death penalty is not the only thing that factors into whether a murder is committed or not...
but if your life is lived vicariously through books and data...you would be gullible enough to base your view of the world by what any statistics POINT TO.
Statistics are like women; mirrors of purest virtue and truth, or like s to use as one pleases. ~Theodor Billroth
Do not put your faith in what statistics say until you have carefully considered what they do not say. ~William W. Watt
Then there is the man who drowned crossing a stream with an average depth of six inches. ~W.I.E. Gates
There are two kinds of statistics, the kind you look up and the kind you make up. ~Rex Stout, Death of a Doxy
I always find that statistics are hard to swallow and impossible to digest. The only one I can ever remember is that if all the people who go to sleep in church were laid end to end they would be a lot more comfortable. ~Mrs. Robert A. Taft
Satan delights equally in statistics and in quoting scripture.... ~H.G. Wells, The Undying Fire
The average human has one breast and one testicle. ~Des McHale
While the individual man is an insoluble puzzle, in the aggregate he becomes a mathematical certainty. You can, for example, never foretell what any one man will be up to, but you can say with precision what an average number will be up to. Individuals vary, but percentages remain constant. So says the statistician. ~Arthur Conan Doyle
A statistical analysis, properly conducted, is a delicate dissection of uncertainties, a surgery of suppositions. ~M.J. Moroney
Statistics may be defined as "a body of methods for making wise decisions in the face of uncertainty." ~W.A. Wallis
I never said statistics (or facts) are the end all be all. Thats your mistake, not mine. Every form of analysis requires appropriate context. That has nothing to do with your stupid assertion that statistics aren't facts.
I am against it. No man has the right to kill another for any crime he commits. Let God sort it out in the end.
The cost has no bearing on anything. More money is wasted on other things less important.
Disagree. The death penalty is not an effective deterrent. Most people who kill are not rational and don't care about much other then committing the crime at the moment it happens.
Disagree. The murderers that are insane/drugged out-yeah maybe.
There are far more murderers that plan out an act than you would think. I talk to them every day, I interact with them every day, I pick their brains and 9 out of 10 definitely tell me that the death penalty matters-a lot.
Here's a statistic for you...
98% of all adult males jerk off...
the other 2%?
No arms....
88% of the country's top criminologists believe the death penalty is not a deterrent to homicide study published in Journal of Criminal Law & Criminology. Yet I am supposed to believe you.
The murder rate in non death penalty states is lower than states with the death penalty.
Yet you want to dismiss all the stats because they go against your logic.
Believe whatever you want. I choose to believe things that I learn firsthand-instead of from some book or from statistics.
I am not disputing the murder rates in states with or without the death penalty. I am trying to point out that the death penalty is just one factor to consider when trying to find the causes of killings and how it affects the murder rate.
There are other factors to consider besides just the state being a death penalty state or not.
I never said dismiss all the stats...I pointed out that if all you are going by is stats...then that is pretty narrow-minded in itself.
I don't believe any form of punishment we currently use is a deterrent for crime. If somebody is of the mind to commit murder, rape, etc... they are going to do it regardless of whether they live in a death penalty state or not. I really don't view imprisonment or death as a punishment anyway. It's a means to remove you from society. Not only do I like the death penalty, I think we should kill some of these guys serving consecutive life sentences too. Why let them continue to be a leach with three meals and bed for the rest of their lives? Line up all of those guys and anybody sitting on death row and end it already. Save prison for the lesser criminals who might actually get to see the light of day again.
I think the best quote for the stats versus facts argument is
The average human has one breast and one testicle. ~Des McHale
That one cracked me up.
Not that I am arguing for anyone but if I wanted to argue using a quote it would have just been that one alone.
how did your confrontation with ChumpDumper go?
I feel rejuvenated and free, tbh.
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It's pretty narrow-minded to assume that anyone else is going strictly off of stats.
lol playa advice from a loser
Loser is you telling you.loser
that's telling me
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