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It's just the spineless "anybody but me" at ude.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...he-wealthy.php
Large Majority Of Americans, Including Most Republicans, Support Raising Taxes On The Wealthy
As the debate about how to deal with the federal deficit heats up, two new polls show that large, bipartisan majorities of Americans support raising taxes on the wealthy, as President Obama has proposed doing.
A central piece of Obama's deficit reduction plan calls for raising taxes on annual income above $250,000. Though tax hikes are generally thought to be unpopular, both a Washington Post/ABC News poll and a McClatchy-Marist survey found that a majority of Americans supported that proposal. What's more, even a majority of Republicans in the Washington Post/ABC News poll said they favored raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans.
In addition, both polls found Americans overwhelmingly opposed to a deficit reduction plan pushed by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) that would ultimately privatize Medicare, the federal healthcare program for the elderly. Taken together, those findings show that in the looming deficit debate, Obama may hold an edge in public opinion.
The Washington Post/ABC News survey asked American adults whether they supported or opposed a list of proposals to reduce the deficit. Seventy-two percent of all respondents said they supported raising taxes on annual income over $250,000, including 54% of respondents who said they "strongly" supported that position. Democrats were most supportive of that proposal (91%), but so too were a majority of independents (68%) and Republicans (54%.)
Additionally, 27% said they opposed increasing taxes on income earned beyond $250,000 per year.
In the Marist poll, 64% of registered voters said they supported raising taxes above that same cutoff point, compared to 33% who opposed that plan. A majority of Republicans opposed tax hikes in the Marist poll (54% against verus 43% in favor), though larger majorities of Democrats and independents supported them. Democrats backed the tax increases 83%-15%, while independents supported them by a 63%-34% split.
As for the GOP plan to make cuts to Medicare spending, Marist found that 80% of registered voters opposed that proposal, while only 18% supported it. And in the Washington Post-ABC News poll, cutting Medicare was the least popular proposal offered as a way to reduce the deficit. In that poll, 78% of adults said they opposed that plan, compared to 21% who said they supported it. Further, that survey found that two-thirds of adults thought the structure of Medicare should remain unchanged, while just one-third supported making it into a voucher program as Rep. Ryan has proposed.
Republicans, while pushing for the Ryan plan, have said tax increases are a total non-starter. But as these two polls show, Americans would prefer if the opposite were the case.
The Washington Post poll was conducted April 14-17 among 1,001 adults nationwide. It has a margin of error of 3.5%. Marist's poll was conducted April 10-14 among 1,084 registered voters, and has a margin of error of 3.0%.
According to Darrins we should listen to the people!
It's just the spineless "anybody but me" at ude.
Americans Support Higher Taxes. Really.
Contrary to Republican dogma, polls show that the American people strongly support higher taxes to reduce the deficit and improve income inequality. Following are 19 different polls since the first of the year that say so.
A June 9 Washington Post/ABC News poll found that 61 percent of people believe higher taxes will be necessary to reduce the deficit.
A June 7 Pew poll found strong support for tax increases to reduce the deficit; 67 percent of people favor raising the wage cap for Social Security taxes, 66 percent raising income tax rates on those making more than $250,000, and 62 percent favor limiting tax deductions for large corporations. A plurality of people would also limit the mortgage interest deduction.
A May 26 Lake Research poll of Colorado voters found that they support higher taxes on the rich to shore-up Social Security’s finances by a 44 percent to 25 percent margin.
A May 13 Bloomberg poll found that only one third of people believe it is possible to substantially reduce the budget deficit without higher taxes; two thirds do not.
A May 12 Ipsos/Reuters poll found that three-fifths of people would support higher taxes to reduce the deficit.
A May 4 Quinnipiac poll found that people favor raising taxes on those making more than $250,000 to reduce the deficit by a 69 percent to 28 percent margin.
An April 29 Gallup poll found that only 20 percent of people believe the budget deficit should be reduced only by cutting spending; 76 percent say that higher taxes must play a role.
An April 25 USC/Los Angeles Times poll of Californians found that by about a 2-to-1 margin voters favor raising taxes to deal with the state’s budget problems over cutting spending alone.
An April 22 New York Times/CBS News poll found that 72 percent of people favor raising taxes on the rich to reduce the deficit. It also found that 66 percent of people believe tax increases will be necessary to reduce the deficit versus 19 percent who believe spending cuts alone are sufficient.
An April 20 Washington Post/ABC News poll found that by a 2-to-1 margin people favor a combination of higher taxes and spending cuts over spending cuts alone to reduce the deficit. It also found that 72 percent of people favor raising taxes on the rich to reduce the deficit and it is far and away the most popular deficit reduction measure.
An April 20 Public Religion Research Ins ute poll found that by a 2-to-1 margin, people believe that the wealthy should pay more taxes than the poor or middle class. Also, 62 percent of people believe that growing inequality of wealth is a serious problem.
An April 18 McClatchy-Marist poll found that voters support higher taxes on the rich to reduce the deficit by a 2-to-1 margin, including 45 percent of self-identified Tea Party members.
An April 18 Gallup poll found that 67 percent of people do not believe that corporations pay their fair share of taxes, and 59 percent believe that the rich do not pay their fair share.
On April 1, Tulchin Research released a poll showing that voters in California overwhelmingly support higher taxes on the rich to deal with the state’s budgetary problems.
A March 15 ABC News/Washington Post poll found that only 31 percent of voters support the Republican policy of only cutting spending to reduce the deficit; 64 percent believe higher taxes will also be necessary.
A March 2 NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found that 81 percent of people would support a surtax on millionaires to help reduce the budget deficit, and 68 percent would support eliminating the Bush tax cuts for those earning more than $250,000.
A February 15 CBS News poll found that only 49 percent of people believe that reducing the deficit will require cuts in programs that benefit them; 41 percent do not. Also, only 37 percent of people believe that reducing the deficit will require higher taxes on them; 59 percent do not.
A January 20 CBS News/New York Times poll found that close to two-thirds of people would rather raise taxes than cut benefits for Social Security or Medicare in order to stabilize their finances. The poll also found that if taxes must be raised, 33 percent would favor a national sales tax, 32 percent would support restricting the mortgage interest deduction, 12 percent would raise the gasoline taxes, and 10 percent would tax health care benefits.
On January 3, a 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair poll found that 61 percent of people would rather raise taxes on the rich to balance the budget than cut defense, Social Security or Medicare.
You mean your at ude towards tax increases?
I count 11 polls dealing specifically with taxes on the rich, 8 polls dealing with "increased tax revenue" without any specification as to who's taxes would be going up and exactly zero polls where people were specifically asked if they would support their own taxes going up.Contrary to Republican dogma, polls show that the American people strongly support higher taxes to reduce the deficit and improve income inequality. Following are 19 different polls since the first of the year that say so.
A June 9 Washington Post/ABC News poll found that 61 percent of people believe higher taxes will be necessary to reduce the deficit.
A June 7 Pew poll found strong support for tax increases to reduce the deficit; 67 percent of people favor raising the wage cap for Social Security taxes, 66 percent raising income tax rates on those making more than $250,000, and 62 percent favor limiting tax deductions for large corporations. A plurality of people would also limit the mortgage interest deduction.
A May 26 Lake Research poll of Colorado voters found that they support higher taxes on the rich to shore-up Social Security’s finances by a 44 percent to 25 percent margin.
A May 13 Bloomberg poll found that only one third of people believe it is possible to substantially reduce the budget deficit without higher taxes; two thirds do not.
A May 12 Ipsos/Reuters poll found that three-fifths of people would support higher taxes to reduce the deficit.
A May 4 Quinnipiac poll found that people favor raising taxes on those making more than $250,000 to reduce the deficit by a 69 percent to 28 percent margin.
An April 29 Gallup poll found that only 20 percent of people believe the budget deficit should be reduced only by cutting spending; 76 percent say that higher taxes must play a role.
An April 25 USC/Los Angeles Times poll of Californians found that by about a 2-to-1 margin voters favor raising taxes to deal with the state’s budget problems over cutting spending alone.
An April 22 New York Times/CBS News poll found that 72 percent of people favor raising taxes on the rich to reduce the deficit. It also found that 66 percent of people believe tax increases will be necessary to reduce the deficit versus 19 percent who believe spending cuts alone are sufficient.
An April 20 Washington Post/ABC News poll found that by a 2-to-1 margin people favor a combination of higher taxes and spending cuts over spending cuts alone to reduce the deficit. It also found that 72 percent of people favor raising taxes on the rich to reduce the deficit and it is far and away the most popular deficit reduction measure.
An April 20 Public Religion Research Ins ute poll found that by a 2-to-1 margin, people believe that the wealthy should pay more taxes than the poor or middle class. Also, 62 percent of people believe that growing inequality of wealth is a serious problem.
An April 18 McClatchy-Marist poll found that voters support higher taxes on the rich to reduce the deficit by a 2-to-1 margin, including 45 percent of self-identified Tea Party members.
An April 18 Gallup poll found that 67 percent of people do not believe that corporations pay their fair share of taxes, and 59 percent believe that the rich do not pay their fair share.
On April 1, Tulchin Research released a poll showing that voters in California overwhelmingly support higher taxes on the rich to deal with the state’s budgetary problems.
A March 15 ABC News/Washington Post poll found that only 31 percent of voters support the Republican policy of only cutting spending to reduce the deficit; 64 percent believe higher taxes will also be necessary.
A March 2 NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found that 81 percent of people would support a surtax on millionaires to help reduce the budget deficit, and 68 percent would support eliminating the Bush tax cuts for those earning more than $250,000.
A February 15 CBS News poll found that only 49 percent of people believe that reducing the deficit will require cuts in programs that benefit them; 41 percent do not. Also, only 37 percent of people believe that reducing the deficit will require higher taxes on them; 59 percent do not.
A January 20 CBS News/New York Times poll found that close to two-thirds of people would rather raise taxes than cut benefits for Social Security or Medicare in order to stabilize their finances. The poll also found that if taxes must be raised, 33 percent would favor a national sales tax, 32 percent would support restricting the mortgage interest deduction, 12 percent would raise the gasoline taxes, and 10 percent would tax health care benefits.
On January 3, a 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair poll found that 61 percent of people would rather raise taxes on the rich to balance the budget than cut defense, Social Security or Medicare.
The fact that no one seems to want to take a poll asking "do YOU support YOUR taxes going up" is pretty telling.
The Bush tax cuts were given across the board, they should expire across the board. Limiting the expiration to the rich is an unnecessary wedge. It introduces a whole host of "us vs. them" arguments that impede getting anything done at all.
I think if you asked most Americans to explain the differences of all the tax types they are asked to say if they are for or against, they would not be able to. But if you put in in a way that the democrats do, where it is a way of leveling the playing field and making the rich put in their share-then they are in favor of it. Also if you asked the average American to add up their total they pay in taxes, they would also be unable to.
What I've read so far is that the 'tax increases' being discussed ATM are both the expiration of the Bush tax cuts AND the closure of some tax loopholes. The latter being what a good chunk of both the GOP and Dems are unwilling to do seeing that it affects the companies that put them where they are.
"It introduces a whole host of "us vs. them" arguments"
Repugs/VRWC have been polarizing and dividing Human-Americans for 30 years, why stop now?
democracts started the civil war why stop now even though they got their asses handed to them then
Do you want progress or gamesmanship?
Even if that were an exclusively Republican agenda, that means you're playing along with them, doing exactly what they want you to do. Good job. You're the Matt Bonner of Liberals.
"that means you're playing along with them"
no problem for me if it means getting the top 5% to pay $Ts more in taxes.
America is fatally, irreparably divided now, and "divided we fall" is inevitable.
DarrinS just swallows the GOP talking points whole, specifically the "This is the will of the people" thing that John Boehner always spews, but when you actually ask the people, they never seem to agree.
At some point, I could get behind raising taxes. Now just doesn't seem like a good time. With unemployment as high as it is, the govt should try and create the most business-friendly environment possible. Call me crazy. If those pesky unemployment numbers don't go down? Well, obama will go down in flames like Jimmy Carter.
You can still do that without limiting it to the rich.
What is Clinton out there preaching lately?
Not how to turn the gay into straight by prayer...
We're not even talking about across the board tax hikes. We're talking about targeted tax hikes on the people who can most afford to bear them.
And the whole "it will kill business" argument is bull . It didn't kill business in the 90's, and capital gains taxes are probably more influential on job creation than income taxes anyway, and those won't be touched.
Just as the Repugs want. They want the economy to fail because power is more important to them than America, and fools like you just enable them.
Pro-life but anti-tax increase and anti-spending cut. Irony.
And yet you rail against the stimulus package? The reason the economy sucks is because no one is buying . The stimullus package was the government stepping in to fill that void. Tax cuts don't do compared to unemployment benefits in boosting the economy.
Americans must be stupid because the republicans and tea party candidates made no secret of their intentions and plans. they wanted to fix the debt with cuts and cuts only. huge cuts, in fact i think they wanted to cut taxes for the wealthy once things got going again. so why all of a sudden do they want to increase taxes? why did they vote republican then. makes no sense. politics is crazy.
Iron E, a new vitamin.
"republicans and tea party candidates made no secret of their intentions and plans"
Which, as we see now, included not one initiative to create jobs and get the bottom 95% economy moving again.
The Repubs want the jobs and economic pain to last as long and as deep as possible.
Mitch O'Connell said again a couple days ago that the Repug priority is defeating Barry. iow, the people, the economy, the country, Repugs only play obstructionist, destructive politics, in or out of power.
"Americans must be stupid",
the lower 95% who vote Repug are because they obtain nothing from the Repugs, the top 5% gain everything.
I remember reading that the brilliance of Rove was to get the dumb bubba class to vote against their own best (economic) interests. They got suckered, are suckered by "social" and "Christian" and "right to life "issues (the right to life doesn't extend to bubba soldiers themselves).
Start a bogus war and waste 1000s of bubba lives and 100s of 1000s of bubba injuries? No problemo, just keep spouting off (lying) about "born again" and abortion and Muslims.
The Repugs count on their base being stupid, emotional, anti-scientific, not being smart and rational and thinking critically.
Repugs are so pro-Human-American that they killed TANF last year and killed the plan to help employees who jobs that get exported. yes, bubba, Repugs are your BFF.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 07-12-2011 at 07:37 AM.
If they raise taxes on everyone across the board, including those who pay no income tax, I have no problem with paying my share.
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