Monroe: Splitter figures to start

[TJastal]

same expectations here.
in general it's not a bad position, if a team can claim to already have two legit centers and is just in need of a quality 4. I wrote before that if Tim doesn't play more than 25 MPG (which he shouldn't), we would need a high quality back up anyhow. so Tiago will also play about 25 MPG, maybe up to 30. the 4th big could still be either Blair or Bonner (the other is traded), playing about 15 MPG.
so, as you also say, what Spurs need is a 30 MPG PF. other than most here I don't think this needs to be a defensive player in the first place. he should be a decent defender, but in the first place he must be able to score efficiently at a 14-17 PPG level. the other team must not be able to focus their post defense on Tim.
that's why I'm high on Landry as a FA target, but I'm aware that he will likely get better offers (Indiana). an interesting trade target could be Millsap, another is Bass. (Millsap reportedly is on the market, Bass was rumored in trade talks last deadline. Bass likely isn't good enough for the mentioned role. Millsap and Landry would be IMO).

I'd much rather have Ryan Anderson than any of those guys. Kind of like Bonner, a guy who can space the floor for Manu & TP but then actually defend the PF/C positions & rebound.

[Booharv]

The Spurs may have a better chance of competing for another le in a 50- or 60-game campaign than a team like the Oklahoma City Thunder, which relies on younger, less-experienced players.

I've seen this re ed misconception all over the place. If its anything like 99 it will favor the younger teams; they played like 50 games in like two months. There would be a ton of back to back and sometimes iirc they played games three days in a row. Old players get worn out way faster in that kind of scenario.

[mountainballer]

I'd much rather have Ryan Anderson than any of those guys. Kind of like Bonner, a guy who can space the floor for Manu & TP but then actually defend the PF/C positions & rebound.

because Anderson is on the block???? (which he isn't, Magic are pretty happy to have him, except the Bonner like PO downfalls)
I'd much rather have about 10 or 20 other players, if I just mentioned who I like for playing the 4 with the Spurs. Bass and Millsap are (or at least have been) on the market.
another player, who reportedly is on the market is Ilyasova. Bucks wanted a 2011 or 2012 1st rounder before the draft. he had a sub par season, but I still like him. he isn't a solution for the starting PF with the Spurs, but he would be a nice complementary player for some line ups. can play the Bonner role, the small ball PF AND the big SF. would be a nice option to have such a player on the bench.

[TJastal]

because Anderson is on the block???? (which he isn't, Magic are pretty happy to have him, except the Bonner like PO downfalls)
I'd much rather have about 10 or 20 other players, if I just mentioned who I like for playing the 4 with the Spurs. Bass and Millsap are (or at least have been) on the market.
another player, who reportedly is on the market is Ilyasova. Bucks wanted a 2011 or 2012 1st rounder before the draft. he had a sub par season, but I still like him. he isn't a solution for the starting PF with the Spurs, but he would be a nice complementary player for some line ups. can play the Bonner role, the small ball PF AND the big SF. would be a nice option to have such a player on the bench.

Magic want Josh Smith badly and would gladly deal Anderson if that's what it took to reel him in. But the magic really need a 3rd team to be part of the swap to get it done. The spurs could possibly be that 3rd team in a 3-way trade including Anderson.

Just playing around with the trade machine, got this to work:

SA - trades Parker to Atlanta
Orl - trades Anderson & Nelson to SA
Atl - trades Josh Smith to Orl

This would obviously put the heat on Arenas to deliver as the point guard in Orl.. something I think they'd be willing to risk given the amount they are paying him & also to get Smith. Spurs get a starting pg in return for Parker + a great complimentary PF to Duncan. This would give the spurs 4 3pt shooters in the starting lineup.

Nelson
Manu
Jefferson
Anderson
Duncan

[TJastal]

, the spurs could even throw in Blair on their end as a Smith replacement, he'd be actually a great fit for them IMO, they need some beef on their frontline.

[TJastal]

More I think about it, the more I like this trade.

Nelson + Manu in the starting lineup would be a great fit IMO. Nelson has never really needed the ball in hands alot (like Parker) to be effective, which allows more touches for Manu. Nelson is also very good at lob passes, which RJ & Leonard should benefit from.

Anderson still has alot of potential to get better IMO. Not only as a 3pt shooter but in many other facets of his game.

[TJastal]

I bet this would "inspire" some friendly compe ion between Bonner & Anderson as well. To see which one can be the best 3pt shooting big (% wise). Never hurts to have a little extra motivation. Also maybe Bonner would see Anderson playing like a man in the paint and be shamed into finally shedding his ginger-itis.

One thing is for certain, this would be Pop's wet dream to pretty much always have a floor spacer in the game at the 4.

[MaNu4Tres]

Magic want Josh Smith badly and would gladly deal Anderson if that's what it took to reel him in. But the magic really need a 3rd team to be part of the swap to get it done. The spurs could possibly be that 3rd team in a 3-way trade including Anderson.

Just playing around with the trade machine, got this to work:

SA - trades Parker to Atlanta
Orl - trades Anderson & Nelson to SA
Atl - trades Josh Smith to Orl

This would obviously put the heat on Arenas to deliver as the point guard in Orl.. something I think they'd be willing to risk given the amount they are paying him & also to get Smith. Spurs get a starting pg in return for Parker + a great complimentary PF to Duncan. This would give the spurs 4 3pt shooters in the starting lineup.

Nelson
Manu
Jefferson
Anderson
Duncan

I'm glad you're not the GM of the Spurs.

[Blake]

I'm glad you're not the GM of the Spurs.

+1

Pop would have probably been fired in 2001.

[quentin_compson]

Dear God, please no Nelson on the Spurs team. Compared to him, TP is a brilliant pass-first guard.

[DesignatedT]

lol Parker is 10x better than Nelson.

[TJastal]

Dear God, please no Nelson on the Spurs team. Compared to him, TP is a brilliant pass-first guard.

So what? You give up a little bit of passing for a much better 3pt shooter and floor spacer and you get the ball in Manu's hands more. It's a win-win.

[TJastal]

lol Parker is 10x better than Nelson.

Obviously he's better but the difference isn't as big as you're making out. And the fact that he's a better fit in the starting lineup is why it makes sense.

[TJastal]

I'm glad you're not the GM of the Spurs.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have traded Scola for some Greek .

[DesignatedT]

Obviously he's better but the difference isn't as big as you're making out. And the fact that he's a better fit in the starting lineup is why it makes sense.

We won 61 games because of our starting backcourt... it obviously wasn't because of our frontcourt... We lost because of our bigs inside and need to address those issues with bigger/stronger/taller players. Getting rid of Tony or Manu, no matter who we can realistically get in return will not make this team better.

If you get rid of Bonner and Blair and add two 7 footers who are 3-4 mil/year type players and give Splitter more of a role then we easily beat Memphis...

talking about blowing up the team and acting like Tony has no real impact on this squad. He is the most important piece to this puzzle, get rid of him and get rid of the little hope we have left.

[TJastal]

We won 61 games because of our starting backcourt... it obviously wasn't because of our frontcourt... We lost because of our bigs inside and need to address those issues with bigger/stronger/taller players. Getting rid of Tony or Manu, no matter who we can realistically get in return will not make this team better.

If you get rid of Bonner and Blair and add two 7 footers who are 3-4 mil/year type players and give Splitter more of a role then we easily beat Memphis...

talking about blowing up the team and acting like Tony has no real impact on this squad. He is the most important piece to this puzzle, get rid of him and get rid of the little hope we have left.

Still stuck on thinking the spurs would just roll into the fetal position and die if Parker left the team, huh?

[DesignatedT]

Still stuck on thinking the spurs would just roll into the fetal position and die if Parker left the team, huh?

roll into the fetal position and die? No, definitely not... but I don't think our championship aspirations improve under any scenario in which Parker is traded... If we are indeed in "win now" mode.

[TJastal]

roll into the fetal position and die? No, definitely not... but I don't think our championship aspirations improve under any scenario in which Parker is traded.

ANY scenario?

[DesignatedT]

If you were talking about rebuilding for the future than so be it, Trade Tony for younger pieces and nobody could really disagree with you, but insinuating that trading Tony would be a "win now" move is

[DesignatedT]

ANY scenario?

Realistic scenario, Yes.

[dylankerouac]

We won 61 games because of our starting backcourt... it obviously wasn't because of our frontcourt... We lost because of our bigs inside and need to address those issues with bigger/stronger/taller players. Getting rid of Tony or Manu, no matter who we can realistically get in return will not make this team better.

If you get rid of Bonner and Blair and add two 7 footers who are 3-4 mil/year type players and give Splitter more of a role then we easily beat Memphis...

talking about blowing up the team and acting like Tony has no real impact on this squad. He is the most important piece to this puzzle, get rid of him and get rid of the little hope we have left.

[TJastal]

If you were talking about rebuilding for the future than so be it, Trade Tony for younger pieces and nobody could really disagree with you, but insinuating that trading Tony would be a "win now" move is

Are you saying 24 year old Ryan Anderson is not a "younger piece"?

[DesignatedT]

Are you saying 24 year old Ryan Anderson is not a "younger piece"?

Are you saying that Jameer Nelson and Ryan Anderson will make it more likely the Spurs come away with a championship next season?

Or is this a rebuilding move you are making... for when after Duncan retires...

[DesignatedT]

Under either scenario is makes no sense. Nelson and Anderson definitely don't improve our stance for next season compared to Tony and playing our hand in FA....

and if you are talking about a rebuilding after Duncan move, we better be able to get something better than Ryan Anderson for Tony Parker

[TJastal]

Parker homers ... gotta be the most re ed dip s on this forum.

Let's see, they all whine about wanting to rebuild and pay lip service to putting TP on the trading block, but scoff at my idea which would shave off 2 years of salary for a total savings of 35 MILLION. OH, and also would net us a 24 year old power forward for the future to start next to Tiago.

Not good enough, says the Parker homers.