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    I'd like to see Kawhi in some kind of NBA action before I come out and say the Spurs should have taken someone else. There's a reason why those guys get paid to do what they do, and why we don't. They know what they're doing, so I'll trust them with the move.

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    I'd like to see Kawhi in some kind of NBA action before I come out and say the Spurs should have taken someone else. There's a reason why those guys get paid to do what they do, and why we don't. They know what they're doing, so I'll trust them with the move.
    Agreed. Leonard was pretty much the consensus best PURE SF on the board (if you don't consider Williams or either of the Texas twins a SF). I was high on Singleton due to his height but think Leonard might prove to be a better choice due to his strength.

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    TJastal still being a lame as turd weeks after the draft.

    Did ya have fun at Splashtown yesterday? Did ya get Hill's autograph?

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    Darko Milicic = the next Sabonis. Michael Olowokandi = the next Patrick Ewing.
    Don't forget their praise for Christian Laettner

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    TJastal still being a lame as turd weeks after the draft.

    Did ya have fun at Splashtown yesterday? Did ya get Hill's autograph?
    Nobody does stupid like tjastal. Ron White would be impressed.

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    should get some timvp thoughts on leonard in this thread

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    i like neal but going from what I saw this past season, Neal is not a very good ball handler he is adequate in making a move to get himself open for a shot but he is not a consistently good playmaker or ballhandler. I can't believe that Pop would start Leonard at t he 4, he might see some minues there when they go small, but I think this guy will be the starting forward by the end of the season. Unless POp loses all confidence in Leonard early, which might happen, Jefferson will have to really step up his game to keep his job. I don't see that happening, Jefferson is the whiniest guy on the team.

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    i like neal but going from what I saw this past season, Neal is not a very good ball handler he is adequate in making a move to get himself open for a shot but he is not a consistently good playmaker or ballhandler. I can't believe that Pop would start Leonard at t he 4, he might see some minues there when they go small, but I think this guy will be the starting forward by the end of the season. Unless POp loses all confidence in Leonard early, which might happen, Jefferson will have to really step up his game to keep his job. I don't see that happening, Jefferson is the whiniest guy on the team.
    Leonard will not see the starting lineup unless he can hit a corner 3 and shoot at least 40% from beyond the arc. And that is highly unlikely given he shot 29% from college range.

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    Unless Pop is crazy enough to try to play him at the 4, but I think that would be a major disaster.

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    Leonard will not see the starting lineup unless he can hit a corner 3 and shoot at least 40% from beyond the arc. And that is highly unlikely given he shot 29% from college range.
    I didn't agree with all of the premature Bowen comparisons right after Leonard was drafted, but Bowen himself was a career 28% three point shooter in college.

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    should get some timvp thoughts on leonard in this thread
    http://pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=65793

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    Leonard will not see the starting lineup unless he can hit a corner 3 and shoot at least 40% from beyond the arc.
    Like the all amazing Richard Jefferson and his 36% career three point shooting?

    And that is highly unlikely given he shot 29% from college range.
    And Bruce Bowen was worse.

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    i noticed that a few days ago. Is that really timvp? Because one of his posts on Lorbek is a near word-for-word rip of one of your posts . . .

    timvp = bruno ?

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    he hardly said anything about Leonard. he was supposed to give us the goods on our new prospects and with it being dead season we could use some perspective on them to bs about it

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    I didn't agree with all of the premature Bowen comparisons right after Leonard was drafted, but Bowen himself was a career 28% three point shooter in college.
    Bowen also worked his ass off to develop a 3pt shot. He also has normal size hands, not hands the size of toilet seats. Large hands are good for rebounding but they suck for shooting. That's why Shaq could never shoot outside of 8 feet.

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    Like the all amazing Richard Jefferson and his 36% career three point shooting?



    And Bruce Bowen was worse.
    Richard Jefferson also worked his ass off with Pop this past summer to develop his corner 3pt shot. He also has normal size hands, not hands the size of toilet seats. Large hands are good for rebounding but they suck for shooting. That's why Shaq could never shoot outside of 8 feet.

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    Tim has extremely large hands. Next.

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    Michael Jordan also has huge hands. Next

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    Tim has extremely large hands. Next.
    Shaq size hands? Don't think so.

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    Michael Jordan also has huge hands. Next
    Shaq size hands? Don't think so.

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    The big hands myth again?

    That never fails to amuse.

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    The big hands myth again?

    That never fails to amuse.

    http://swishscout.com/?page_id=2405

    The biggest gift and curse to his game is his enormous hands, which greatly contribute to his rebounding prowess, but will always inhibit his shooting abilities
    Shooting mechanics are not smooth (elbow bowed outside and has a hitch on release), has oversized hands that could plague his shooting accuracy throughout his career
    [The biggest concern for his game offensively is shooting the ball, where he is always going to lag behind because of his hand size. He has decent touch when he gets in the lane and pulling up from midrange, but gets severely limited from about 18 feet and out. The NBA 3′s for him will probably be few and far between, as he only had 25 makes from NCAA 3 pt. range as a sop re
    The biggest challenge to his game will be improving his perimeter shooting consistency. The biggest barrier to this will be his enormous hands, which won’t fit into a 2XL football glove. They are enormous, and players like Shaquille O’Neal and Rajon Rondo have faced career shooting woes due to oversized hands. For him, shooting a basketball is like trying to shoot a tennis ball and it will always be an issue, but he will improve. With big hands, he has more surface area on the ball with less control, which can be too much in effect and misguide the ball consistently on release. A lot of smaller players are at an advantage shooting the ball because their hands cover a smaller, more guided and direct area that allows them to hit with greater accuracy. It’s a complicated explanation about why big hands are a disadvantage shooting the ball, but the percentages don’t lie for the players who have them

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    Shaq's biggest issue wasn't his hands, it was his poorly healed wrist that he broke in childhood. With his form, it wouldn't have mattered if his hands were Lady Gaga sized.

    Yao had huge hands.

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    I fully accept TJastal's being a swish scout.

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