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With no SL and a possible lengthy lockout, it would be great if he can play with Canada NT.
Well if RJ and Leonard share the minutes at SF, that leaves rotation minutes for 4 guards:
Can he honestly be that much worse at running the point then gh3 his rookie year? At least this kid has played point before the pros unlike gh3.
Tony
Manu
Neal
Anderson
Still haven't mentioned Green, Butler, and a possible veteran PG.
Hard to see Cory playing much unless there is an injury to a player ahead of him.
With no SL and a possible lengthy lockout, it would be great if he can play with Canada NT.
the position of PG is one that is easy to fill...
The 3 most common positions in the NBA are SG, PF and PG in that order (there are few TRUE SFs and Cs but that's another story). PGs are easy to obtain due to height and the desire for young JR high, HS and college players to play. About 95% of all basketball players in HS are 6'5" and below and are taught how to dribble and pass. Likewise, just about EVERYBODY develops the SG skillset as well by trying to be like Mike, Kobe, etc. and shooting 3s from all over the court. The guys who do actually grow taller (6'8" or above) still have that scoring from a face to the basket midrange game mentality over posting up.
Because of this PGs, SGs and PFs are more easily obtained. Look at the recent draft - 9 of the 1st 12 picks were a PG/SG/PF. So says NBA history...
http://www.nba.com/history/draft_top13.html
In other words, there's really no need to be overly concerned about common positions - if you draft or trade for a bust in one, there'll be another one to replace them soon.
Now, the SF and C positions are quite a bit different in terms of skillset and as a result, very few taller players want to develop a true post up game or emphasize defense and rebounding over offense. Combine that w/ more uptempo running style of basketball, you get leaner players who shy away from contact vs. trying to put on muscle and wanting to bang. Case in point: the last SF to get drafted #1 overall was Lebron, before that it was James Worthy.
So I say let Cory be 2nd on the depth chart behind TP. Neal can be 3rd as he really is a SG. If TP gets hurt for a substantial length of time (which is likely), then picking up another PG shouldn't be difficult.
Last edited by Tyrone Jenkins; 06-27-2011 at 08:02 PM.
As it stands with the current roster, though I believe the FO is looking for more change before the end of next year, I see the SG depth as Manu, Anderson and Neal. Though Manu may come off the bench as he has in the past. The PG depth is thus Tony, ? And Cory. I could see Pop playing both Anderson as SG and either Manu or Neal with limited PG minutes until we either get a vet backup or Cory looks like he's ready. Not yet sold on Green or Butler. I have hopes for Butler though.
Why not Cory as the #2 PG? Why is there a need for another PG? Hill was the #2 as a rookie
I see Cory as still being pretty raw, whereas I see Leonard as better prepared for playing time at this level. Had Cory waited another year to enter the draft then yes I could see that. Cory was trying to not play 2nd string to a freshman at Texas... so he can use some time with the Toros before he's ready to back up Tony. I see Cory getting regular minutes after next season.
Excellent point. Bluebell - you're alright...
I say just throw him into the fire Parker style. Manu can play the point, we just need this guy to defend, and make shots to keep the d honest.I keel hearing he's not that athletic but I've seen plays were he looked pretty damn athletic.
http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/e...st-for-canada/
In 10 days, Canada will play a couple of games against France. Parker vs. JosephThough his name did not originally appear on the Training Camp Roster, Rautins explained to me Joseph could be training with the team at Ryerson as early as next week.
“We’re trying to figure out…finalize the insurance and (Cory) has given every indication he’d like to play,” said Rautins. “We’re hoping that can happen soon.”
Sources indicated that the insurance is all-but done, it’s simply a matter of crossing a few T’s and dotting a few I’s at this point. So, barring an unforeseen setback, fans should expect to see Joseph in camp by early-to-mid next week. In fact, though the Spurs are not allowed to comment on any of their players (due to the NBA Lockout / on-going Collective Bargaining Agreement negotiations), sources have said that San Antonio may have been quietly hoping that Joseph suited up for Canada — to get a little more schooling and experience in preparation for his rookie season with Gregg Popovich and Co.
I think rotation wise, If you say Parker plays ~32, Manu plays ~28 we have 36 minutes left in rotation. I'd say we need one of Tony and Manu on the floor most of the time(Parker-Anderson, Manu-Neal as other combos work, I'm not sure of a Neal-Anderson Backcourt). If we say Manu plays 20 minutes a game in the backcourt with Parker, we'd have 8 minutes a game with neither on the court. Could Corey play 8 minutes a game?(Or less if Manu and TP are more split) or could Neal-Anderson work for a few minutes a game (against bench backcourts). I'm not sure we need another PG, as either that guy or Joseph will be bench riding for the majority of the time.
The question is more if a Ginobili/Neal backcourt can work given that none is a true PG. Pop can easily have a rotation where at least one of Parker and Ginobili always of the court. The easiest way to do so would be to start Parker with Anderson.
i don't know you guys but i think we have a true back up point guard with cory joseph now since beno left this team.
Cory needs to be spending his whole rookie year in Austin. Never seen him much when he was at UT, but what everyone says he isn't ready for the nba, and needs to work on his weaknesses. Hoping if Spurs somehow end up trading RJ, Spurs can net a backup point guard like a Ramon Sessions in the trade, who Cleveland is trying to trade.
This is what I think will happen. The first sub is Manu for Anderson, then Neal for Parker with Manu moving to the 1. Then Parker back in for Manu. Joseph may start with the Toros, but I think ends up with the team as its 3rd PG getting spot and blow out minutes.
I think a better solution would be to START Anderson and have manu come off the bench w/ Neal.
Uh, that's what he said. Sub Manu FOR Anderson, meaning Anderson started. Then Sub Neal FOR Parker.
I guess I read his mentioning of the 1st sub he would make would be Anderson for Manu after the game had already started...
I just read on 48moh twitter feed that Cory joseph will PLAY for the Canadian national team.
http://sportscanada.tv/index.php/2011jackdonohue
cory joseph is playing right now with his national team.
How did he do?
I didn't watch the entire game but I think I saw him play like 20 mins total, didn't really standout, he looked like he was trying to find his role on the team. He did play pretty good defense though and at one point chased some guy down LBJ style and swatted his shot but picked up a foul (body contact when coming down).
He drove it in once and got fouled and made 1 out of 2 FT's. That's the only time I saw him score.
I'm sure Spurs FO is looking closely at how well Joseph will do with Canada NT. Joseph readiness to play some NBA minutes is a big factor to decided on whether adding or not a vet PG to the team.
His second game against Belguim was offensively pretty bad once again, but he had some good moments. It's his defense that is shining bright, and it's his defense that probably made R.C and Pop the most interested.
Offense can be taught, but defensive will and tenacity can't be.
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