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    Poverty is a relative term

    I'd say A/C down south is damn near mandatory. I hate Biloxi heat.

    Those mother ers with jacuzzis need to get slapped though.

    I think the problem is that there's "poor", and then there's des ute. You can be poor but still have some creature comforts. I don't think poor necessarily means you're barely getting by week to week.

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    The amenities of the 2011 "poor" are better than the 1960 "middle class".

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    The amenities of the 2011 "poor" are better than the 1960 "middle class".
    2 words:

    credit cards

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    So when the Human-Americans get down to Indian or Chinese or African rural standards, will Heritage and you sociopaths allow them to be called poor?

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    The amenities of the 2011 "poor" are better than the 1960 "middle class".
    True, but I would be careful about what kind of conclusions one would draw from that. Just because John D. Rockefeller didn't have a cell phone doesn't mean that anyone who has one now can't be poor.

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    The amenities of the 2011 "poor" are better than the 1960 "middle class".
    And the amenities of the poor in 1960 were probably better than the "middle class" of 1910, 1850, or any other time in the past.

    Technology is wonderful.

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    Poverty is a relative term

    I always find it interesting that people see A/C as an amenity but not heat.

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    Did your landlord furnish your computer and internet access too?
    No. I'm looking at the list you posted, and I'm pointing out it's misleading. Me having internet access or a computer doesn't really change that point.

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    The amenities of the 2011 "poor" are better than the 1960 "middle class".
    Cost of the amenities for the 2011 "poor" are much lower than the 1960 "middle class".

    And @ having NBA TV... I really cannot comment on my television service arrangement, but let's just say that in some cases corporate welfare can be just as good as the government for certain individuals

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    Even before our great social experiment of the current welfare state, black families actually maintained a family structure.

    What has happened?

    Slavery had nothing to do with this. It's the loss of responsibility.

    I ask, how has that happened?

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    Poverty is a relative term

    That's why I say we need to stop paying so much in social programs.

    Why should tho poor live better than some who work hard?

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    That's why I say we need to stop paying so much in social programs.

    Why should tho poor live better than some who work hard?
    Nice generalization there.

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    And why would they?



    Children were especially valuable property to the white slave owners who'd raped their mothers.
    They maintained a sense of family that too many don't have today. That was my point. Even if people weren't blood relationships, they took care of each other like family.

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    At the very least, misleading. I did not purchase the Refrigerator, Stove and oven and Air Conditioning where I rent.
    Misleading? How do relative numbers mislead you?

    Look at the lines individually. How many people not on social program, have more than one refrigerator, a big screen TV, separate freezer, etc.

    If we allow the welfare state to provide people with this high of a comfort of living, why should they want tom work?

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    Misleading? How do relative numbers mislead you?

    Look at the lines individually. How many people not on social program, have more than one refrigerator, a big screen TV, separate freezer, etc.

    If we allow the welfare state to provide people with this high of a comfort of living, why should they want tom work?
    Where is the number of those not working at all owning those things listed?

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    Even before our great social experiment of the current welfare state, black families actually maintained a family structure.

    What has happened?
    Source?

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    Misleading? How do relative numbers mislead you?

    Look at the lines individually. How many people not on social program, have more than one refrigerator, a big screen TV, separate freezer, etc.
    You didn't read what you replied to, did you?

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    They maintained a sense of family that too many don't have today. That was my point. Even if people weren't blood relationships, they took care of each other like family.
    And what does color has to do with that? How many white people used to divorce back then compared to now? The sense of family values has decreased across the entire spectrum.

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    How do you source something seen and understood decades ago? Probably before you were born!

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    And what does color has to do with that? How many white people used to divorce back then compared to now? The sense of family values has decreased across the entire spectrum.
    I never said it was different or the same for whites. Did I?

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    How do you source something seen and understood decades ago? Probably before you were born!
    personal anecdote > anything

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    How do you source something seen and understood decades ago? Probably before you were born!
    So you don't have any facts. Thanks for admitting that.

    You know, I once saw a unicorn.

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    I never said it was different or the same for whites. Did I?
    Well, the conversation was about slaves and slavery. Keep up.

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    Well, the conversation was about slaves and slavery. Keep up.
    I know that. Not my fault that's what I responded to.

    Maybe you should keep up instead of assuming.

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    I know that. Not my fault that's what I responded to.
    How many white slaves were there back then?
    Thank you for making my point for me.

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