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I hate cops, but if he did indeed fire at them, then I'm glad he's dead.
I hope Koolaid sees this.
I hate cops, but if he did indeed fire at them, then I'm glad he's dead.
Where did you hear that?
Cops don't shoot to wound. This isn't the movies.
We have a LEO on our gun club.
Once you fire, you empty your magazine because you dont know how many bullets will take to put down a threat. A bullet may hit a person but if it doesnt hit an organ then the threat might still pick up a weapon and kill you.
Plus I think its against the law for police officers to shoot to maim a person anyway.
- And even if its not, I doubt they can hit the leg of a person running @ 50 yds away with a DA trigger Glock 22.
They shoot for center mass.
One retired officer told me once he was in a shootout, I know he was, and he got cornered between two cars and the dude comes running up to him shooting, not hitting , and the cop had just gone to a fresh magazine. The guy said I shot him in the torso until he quit moving. He was twitching, I was shooting. He stopped twitching, I stopped shooting.
If the crowd wasn't there in that video, the cops would have shot that er a few more times.
hey D why did you edit your post about the white guy who graduated with the best grades from a black school?
I hate this story because in the end every San Francisco resident is still alive.
If Al Qaeda ever were to pull off detonating a nuke in SF I think I would convert to Islam.
Not exactly true.
You don't empty your magazine as some kind of "trained" action. You are trained to shoot at center mass and you are also trained to never draw your weapon until you absolutely have to kill. Any cop that empties his magazine is probably because he was scared less and thought he might die any second...adrenaline is pumping so hard you can't hardly focus and shoot straight and your body just does before you can regain control.
When adrenaline is pumping in a life or death situation the first thing the body does is send blood to the center of the body from the heart out ...leaving the extremities kinda numb and starved for oxygen...so you hope and pray that you can control your weapon enough to get out alive.
Or probably because they are so focused on eliminating the threat that they will forget the round count and just rely on visual confirmation of the threat going down.
You can empty a 13 rd glock in less than 5 secs (I can empty my 9rd 1911 in 2 secs), a perp's bullet riddled body wont even shut down that fast.
Anyway, I still say 5-10 bullets in a criminal's body is not overkill like what they're crying about.
I can take down any man with one shot.
Total bull .
Cops brandish their sidearm all the time when they don't have to kill, like after a car chase. They all draw down, but no one gets shot. Drawing the sidearm is a precautionary measure.
No.When adrenaline is pumping in a life or death situation the first thing the body does is send blood to the center of the body from the heart out ...leaving the extremities kinda numb and starved for oxygen...so you hope and pray that you can control your weapon enough to get out alive.
You know for a fact you are getting out alive. If you are going to enter a gunfight, you better have the at ude that you will survive no matter what. If you are hoping and praying, you are in the wrong business.
Anyhow, cops shoot to stop, not to kill. Killing is a natural occurrence after some shootings.
You'll also probably piss or crap yourself when in a gun fight.
guns. Icicle crossbows are where its at. No evidence left behind.
too much racism up in here
I saw in a movie once where a guy stabbed another guy with a "knife" made out of ice that he carried around with him in a case. When the cops got there the ice had already melted.
So I took that idea and ran with it.
You don't know what you are talking about.
A cop who draws his weapon as some kind of precautionary measure will not be a cop for long...or is a movie cop...maybe that is where you are getting your info from.
The ONLY time...I repeat...the ONLY time a cop is supposed to draw his weapon is when his life or an innocent bystanders life is in immediate danger...and if you use your weapon...it is only to kill...not to maim...not as a precautionary measure or any such hollywood bull .
If you think that an at ude...of... "I know I am getting out alive"...is common...then you are as big a fool as any stupid cop with that at ude...
Cops are human...they are scared to not come home to their families--everyday--
So believe me when I tell you that a "human" is naturally scared when in a life or death situation...any cop who denies this is a fool or a liar and neither one of these will live long.
It is like when you ride a motorcycle...the moment you get y and think that you are an "expert driver"...is the moment that you are pretty likely to make a mistake and splatter yourself on the street.
Cops shoot to kill because if you are FORCED to draw your weapon and defend yourself or an innocent bystander...you only draw with the intent to kill. Period.
Wrong-o!
Civilians are the only ones not allowed to brandish a firearm.
LEO's can and will draw or draw down their firearms anytime on any kind of call. Some are even required to respond to some calls with the guns already in hand.
Ask a LEO how many times he has to draw/draw down his weapon everyday.
- Because, depending on how busy the area is, a LEO draws his firearms an average of 2-3 times a day. And it doesnt always lead to guns being fired either so that means they draw down to show someone they mean business or precautionary measure.
So wrong...it's not even funny.
If you are responding to a call and someone has already been hurt...or if shots were already fired...of course you draw your weapon---because you are in fear for your life...there is someone armed and dangerous.
Wherever you are getting your info...it is just plain wrong.
Cops on average can go YEARS without drawing their weapon...much less firing it.
If you are approaching a vehicle at night...and you cannot SEE the drivers hands...you are scared less...unless you are a stupid idiot. If you cannot see their hands...you may place your hand on your weapon and undo the holster...or even draw your weapon and point it down....but...AGAIN...it is because you are in fear for your life...
This is why sometimes you get pulled over and the cop seems to talk and act like an asshole...it is because he is scared...
What I ALWAYS do when getting pulled over is to turn on my dome light...place both my hands on the steering wheel and I NEVER make a sudden move...if the officer asks me for my license and registration...I TELL him that I am going to use my right hand and take out my wallet...and then do EXACTLY that.
Usually, this relaxes the officer enough so that he can talk to me normally and not in a pissed off/agitated voice.
Police officers routinely draw their sidearm and hold it near their opposing leg during a routine night time traffic stop. Are they certain to kill someone?
I have no idea where you get your information, but you might want to do some homework.
"The ONLY time...I repeat...the ONLY time a cop is supposed to draw his weapon is when his life or an innocent bystanders life is in immediate danger"
Are you telling me a traffic cop intentionally puts his life in immediate danger to issue a speeding ticket?
You might want to rethink that.
Precautionary... that's the key word. Focus on that.
Or he's on a power trip. I've never had a cop be an asshole to me.This is why sometimes you get pulled over and the cop seems to talk and act like an asshole...it is because he is scared...
You're paranoid. You need to relax. Flash that CHL, that calms the situation.What I ALWAYS do when getting pulled over is to turn on my dome light...place both my hands on the steering wheel and I NEVER make a sudden move...if the officer asks me for my license and registration...I TELL him that I am going to use my right hand and take out my wallet...and then do EXACTLY that.
Again, you are paranoid.Usually, this relaxes the officer enough so that he can talk to me normally and not in a pissed off/agitated voice.
I explained it already...
Put yourself in the officers shoes...
You pull over a vehicle at night...you cannot see into the car, it is dark, at any time you can get blown away...sure 9 times out of ten...it will turn out to be a routine traffic stop and the driver will be some housewife in her 40's...no problem.
The one time out of a hundred...it could be some idiot that is out on parole...he just drank some booze...and he swears he will never go back to prison...
The officer has no idea if THIS traffic stop is the one where the convict is pulling out a weapon from under the seat to blow his away...so THIS is why they draw their weapon...because they do not want to be the ONE cop that nonchalantly walked up to a car without his weapon ready and got blown to .
This is the reality of policework. I am not paranoid. This is police procedure ..which no-one ever thinks about....they just get pissed when they see a video and a cop shoots a kid and the kid happened to NOT have a weapon...well...the officer THOUGHT that the kid pulled out a shiny metal object from his waistband...and in the split-second before he could confirm that it was a gun....he shot and killed...and the kid was only pulling out his cell phone, enraging all the cop haters to call the cops dirty and the shooting unjustified.
Read the last post regarding the traffic stop. True police procedure.
I am not paranoid-I just know what cops are faced with and I know why they respond the way they do. It is common sense.
I work for a LE agency. I am not on the street anymore. I work inside now. Corrections. Fact.
Don't care what anyone thinks about it either. Just a job.
I have had the training but decided that I didn't want to make a living pulling people over for the same that I do myself, like driving over 55 mph, and other minor things. It is just hypocritical to take people's freedoms away for things that I might be guilty of myself. Everyone thinks differently. I just decided to transfer to the corrections side...now I work with real winners everyday (inmates).
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