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For some reason, it's more difficult to be middle class in the very blue areas of the country. You'd have to be a doctor or lawyer to have a decent home in San Fran.
Don't confuse the issue. Ask Boutons, it's just the resources.
For some reason, it's more difficult to be middle class in the very blue areas of the country. You'd have to be a doctor or lawyer to have a decent home in San Fran.
You can be a washroom attendant and own a mansion in Simi Valley.
NPV of dollars spent on raising a child to age 18 in Texas:
Total cost: $152,790
Expenses from now until age 18
http://www.babycenter.com/cost-of-ra...ild-calculator
Close to 8300 per year.
That is a lot for someone earning just $20k
Even if one adjusts or omits a lot of that $8,300, it adds up.
Just thought I might throw in that relevant bit, because the cost in the 1950s was MUCH cheaper, simply because moms didn't have to work.
Given the prevalance of single parents, that complicates any such comparisons.
I would though wonder about the availability and modern cost of a comfortable 1,000 square foot house or apartment in most cities these days to people with low incomes.
Just because such homes were available to the middle class in the 1950s does not mean they are available today.
You were talking to RandomGuy.
If it's so expensive, don't have kids?
Blue areas tend to have higher educational attainment. Educational attainment tends to equate to income.
Not a hard reason to ferret out.
Just because you graduate from Stanford doesn't mean you can afford to live in Palo Alto.
everyone arguing different things. this thread is a up
I think you are wrong.
HA!
Correct.
Hence the qualifiers "tend" as in "more likely" as in "not guaranteed".
Discussions here can be very fluid and the basic terms/themes are seldom very well-established. It can be a little sketchy sometimes. Getting people to actually talk about the things they appear to be talking about, can be challenging.
What the ing is your avatar?
More difficult as in more expensive? When it comes to major metropolis, I don't think that necessarily has to do with blue or red.
In the 1950's laundry detergent was much better too...
El Nono beat me to it.
Neat link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGjn47Y-MTgTo hold in my hand a capsule that contained such power,
To know that life and death on such a scale was
My choice. To know a tiny pressure on
My thumb, enough to break the glass, would end
Everything. Yes! I would do it! That power
Would set me up among the gods! And through
The Daleks, I shall have that power!
Last edited by Winehole23; 07-21-2011 at 02:59 PM.
Also, most women worked in the home, and blacks were separate but equal.
Why should our definition of "poor" be static when so many our definitions (for instance, a woman's place) aren't?
I revoke all nerd status from you.
Davros, the Dalek leader/creator from Dr. Who.
http:// is.wikia.com/wiki/Davros
Yeah, I'm that kinda nerd.
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It is a lego creation, probably from the same website that Agloco's website was drawn from for his recent thread, were I to guess
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Ok, WAS a lego thing, till he changed it again. sheesh, worse than a woman with shoos.
Last edited by RandomGuy; 07-21-2011 at 03:45 PM.
I watched "Genesis of the Daleks" for the very first time last night. Am I in?
While we are getting all misty-eyed about the 1950's, and how cheap everything was.
http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/images/11-3-52.jpg
(edit)This [1969] was not the first time that the river had caught on fire. Fires occurred on the Cuyahoga River in 1868, 1883, 1887, 1912, 1922, 1936, 1941, 1948, and in 1952. The 1952 fire caused over 1.5 million dollars in damage.
The phrase "the river is on fire" is always at the back of my mind when people start talking about "government overreach" and limiting jobs through environmental legislation, but that is a whole different thread.
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