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Who is trying to rid the world of judeo-christianity?
Who is trying to rid the world of judeo-christianity?
So a question about what the world would be like w/o Judeo-Christianity... and I have wikilink to secularism.
Nice.
Because of your condescending tone. LOL
I'll ask again, did the Freud quote mean anything to you? Did you read it? Do you understand Landon's point of secularism?
You deny God exists, do you not?
He doesn't exist. We aren't denying anything. You're denying the truth.
I'm rather skeptical about his existence. I do think the bible is full of crap.
I'm not trying to rid the world of it though.
Who is?
Alternative to what?
If you are talking about an alternative to believing in the Judeo-Christian God, the alternative would be not believing in the Judeo Christian God.And none of you do.
Which presupposes that belief in the Judeo-Christian God is viable.And I'm not convinced it's a viable one because of that.
Your argument makes no sense. Are you suggesting that people would start randomly killing each other if they no longer believed in judgment from a higher power?
You've said absolutely nothing. You didn't answer my original question. You also put words in my mouth. I didn't suggest there would be anarchy.
The media has completely failed to represent Christianity fairly. The only time it mentions it is when it tries to diminish it. The left media jumped up and down when it heard this psychotic bomber from Norway had Christian ties. That's the only time you'll hear about it. When stories like this happen, the media jumps all over it. Yet, for example, you won't hear at all about the many, many Christians who do a lot of charity in the poorest places in the world in Somalia or Ethiopia. It's bull and it's deceitful.
You people can't tell me what the world would be like without Christianity because you don't know what it is all about to begin with. You're conditioned to believe it's a hate filled-religion. Go beyond what the media wants you/conditions you to believe and I think you'd get quite a different picture of what it's all about.
Last edited by mingus; 07-31-2011 at 02:00 PM.
read the ing Freud quote.
here it is again
"The idea of God was not a lie but a device of the unconscious which needed to be decoded by psychology. A personal god was nothing more than an exalted father-figure: desire for such a deity sprang from infantile yearnings for a powerful, protective father, for justice and fairness and for life to go on forever. God is simply a projection of these desires, feared and worshipped by human beings out of an abiding sense of helplessness. Religion belonged to the infancy of the human race; it had been a necessary stage in the transition from childhood to maturity. It had promoted ethical values which were essential to society. Now that humanity had come of age, however, it should be left behind."
- Freud
Your question is idiotic.
That's why I began my sentence with "are you suggesting." Reading comprehension, please.You also put words in my mouth. I didn't suggest there would be anarchy.
What? Even if that was true, what is your point? Not being able to tell what the world would be like if Christianity didn't exist, doesn't matter at all.You people can't tell what the world would be like without Christianity because you don't know what is all about to begin with.
The media has zero effect on what I think about Christianity. I grew up a Christian and I went to Catholic high school. I stopped believing in God because I have zero reason to do so.You're conditioned to believe it's a hate filled religion.
Should I just read the passages in the Bible about how to treat slaves or kill children who strike their parents?Go beyond, way beyond what the media want you/conditions you to believe and I think you'd get quite a different picture of what it's all about.
You know come to think of it, since it is an evolutionary advantage to believe in supers ion, and people don't want to be smarter, we can just have the uneducated believers, that can't cope with death in a lower class, and open minded people in a higher class.
Start a secret organization, that cannot be hindered by religion, because whether you want to believe it or not, Mingus and Darrin, we would be farther along in science and as a species if we didn't have western religious nuts hindering because it disproved god.
then when the world ends, the higher class open minded people can take off into space looking for another planet, and the religious people can die on earth, waiting for their messiah to take them to heaven.
A portion of the population would still be worshiping Zeus and the Greek gods. That's about it. Religion almost universally teaches the "Golden Rule" and is not something that is exclusive to Judeo-Christian values. It's obvious by the way you're forming your questions that without religion, or more specifically Christianity, we'd somehow be worse off. That's a horrible proposition and you are most likely correct in your previous post about how you "Guess I'm a re , sorry. LOL".
I don't think any religion is hate filled. I just feel that it conditions people to believe that some things are wrong that really aren't and like any segment of a population you're going to have people who take things too seriously and justify violence to spread or defend "God's word". (Christians bombing abortion clinics, Muslims bombing... everyone, Hindu violence against Muslim minority in India)
'now that humanity has come of age'
What does that even mean? In what way has it come of age? Technologically? Of course. Morally? I can't believe that when there's the 50% divorce rate, excess materialism, and greed that I see all around this country.
Why did you start believing in God?
I started believing in God for the same reason probably 90% of Christians do--I was raised that way as a child.
50% divorce rate, excess materialism, greed. The biggest problems this country has and you're a part of a movement that's trying to take away a religion that speaks out against those things.
Makes perfect sense.
One nation, under IPod.
And so you woke up one day and decided it was dumb to believe in God?
No, it was a gradual process.
Yeah, Christianity must be doing a bang up job of stopping those things from happening. Oh wait...
Good q
We have come of age in our evolutionary process. We are past evolution as a species now. We don't act on natural instinct, in the sense that our empathy can outweigh basic, animalistic desires... like exiling a blind cousin through natural selection.
If we have a disadvantage, we can invent. You have to look at the human species in a way, that our brain is essentially the human, and our body is the evolved tool. Now, our evolution is on another tier from biological to technological. Instead of taking a mass amount of time to evolve x trait to solve y problem, we can, in less time, build n tool to solve y problem.
In Freud's quote, he is essentially saying, religion was there when we needed it, to grow as man. It taught us morality, and answered curious questions that we couldn't answer scientifically. Now that we have come of age, to understand that Zeus isn't pissed when we have a lightning storm and have a set in stone sense of morality, religion can only hold us back be keeping us ignorant to truth.
When I was a kid, I was always skeptical for these reasons.
People who never knew of God, like Native Americans, go to /purgatori
Where do animals go
Why is space so big
Where are dinosaurs in the Bible
If someone commits suicide to save someone else, or many people, he goes to
?
True Christians do a pretty damn good job of it. A lot Christians in name only though. They really worship IPod.
Then I guess God sucks at getting his point across and Christianity can't stop divorce and greed from being prevalent in society.
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