Indifferent at this stage, IMO. It was important in the past as it was probably one of the first, if not the first, psychological therapy known to man.
To me, religion is simply that, one avenue to instill a psychological effect (be it through fear, hope or both). I'm not a huge fan of psychology in it's current state, but I do think it's a useful alternative right now until science gets a better understanding of chemical and synaptic interactions in the brain.
"that's trying to take away a religion"
Nobody's denying anybody a right to believe anything. Go drink the Kool-Aid for all I care. It's your right.
btw, the scammiest, most materialistic, predatorily greedy frauds around are "religious" huckster preachers living in multi-$M tax-free "parsonnages", with tax-free private jets, massive expense accounts, etc, etc.
I'm specifically talking about Judeo-Christianity... Don't know enough about other religions...
It taught us morality. And people have the ability to not give a about them anymore when their source is forgotten.
You were raised/taught by some really, really uninformed Christians my friend.
I'm sorry, what?
What I am saying is that Christianity is not preventing large divorce rates and greed. Am I wrong?
Never met a priest or rabbi that lived any better than your average person. By and large, they live very modest life styles. But according to the media...they all little boy fondlers and millionaires...
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People have a choice whether to practice it. When people make those choices irrespective of God, you see what happens. People are at fault, not Christianity.
And they choose not to, which pokes holes in the doom and gloom theory that the world would go into chaos if people didn't practice Christianity.
Everybody does it. Do you believe that beating slaves is okay? Do you think that killing unruly children is okay? If not, you are going against God.When people make those choices irrespective of God, you see what happens.
Can you give me one benefit to believing in God? Something that I can't get anywhere else?
No I don't believe beating slaves is okay. Jews and Christians don't believe that. A large proportion of abolitionists were Quakers.
For me personally believing in God teaches me there's something bigger than myself. Ive been around some of the poorest of the poor and sickest of the sick. Ask them why you should believe in God.
Then you are going against God.
They believe so they can have peace of mind. They don't care if they are right or not. I, however, do care whether I'm right or not.Ive been around some of the poorest of the poor and sickest of the sick. Ask them why you should believe in God.
Why not? Maybe we'll all get ice cream out of it.
It's rare that a forum poster realizes how dumb they sound. Thanks for being an exception!
Surely, times were much better a scant 50 years ago, when women stayed in the home, blacks weren't considered equal, and gay people were in constant fear of being outed.
Damn these immoral times!
I'm pretty sure morality existed before the Judeo-Christian philosophies
Sociopath god taught us morality? What nonsense.
I've never met the Pope either.
What about this bag?
http://www.rickross.com/reference/tv...reachers7.html
I don't know any modern day preist or rabbi who believes women should "stay at home". Where are you getting this information?
Blacks were empowered by Christianity. The Second Great Awakening spawned many "black" churches which expanded roles of blacks in society. Martin Luther King was a clergyman.
As for sexuals, I don't know a priest or rabbi that wouldn't allow them in their church any day of the week.
For every religious leader bag you can point to, I can point to a hundred others that live very modest lifestyles and do enormous good in the community.
It's left out of what the media reports though. It's a distortion of reality.
Sure. The Bible admonishes greed and materialism. It emphasis charity.
That isn't teaching us morality? Greed and materialism are good things? Being charitable isn't a good thing?
I'm sure there are plenty that are very much against sexuals getting married.
A big knock against judeo-Christian philosophy, imo.
sure, just like anyone else. People will use whatever motivation they think they need in order to help others out.
where are you getting this sense of persecution from?
is your religious butt hurt because your local walmart declared war on Christmas by having their greeters say 'season's greetings'?
I learned never to call someone "baldy" or count a group of soldiers or God will kill over 40 children and 70,000 adults respectively.
When my daughter goes to the zoo, I make it very clear that she is not to use that word around the bears.
There's a lot of debate going on in the Church about it. The stance has softened considerably. Maybe one day they'll be allowed to get married by the Church. I doubt it. Regardless, they should be allowed to get married by government. Let God decide in the end.
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