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Previous generalizations referencing patio furniture and Obama's record in staring contests, seem to have held.
Previous generalizations referencing patio furniture and Obama's record in staring contests, seem to have held.
yeah, a disaster. gutless, "compromise" for Dems means get nothing, give everything.
the super committee The Gang of 6 & 6 will be a bloodbath, with the Dems again yielding everything, getting nothing.
"What Republicans have just gotten away with calls our whole system of government into question."
Well, who is surprised??
"Government IS The Problem" -- St Ronnie The Useful Idiot
Barry and the Dems have committed political suicide. Their base simply won't show up in Nov 2012.
All by itself, Obama's inep ude as a negotiator justifies Republican intransigence. What was the downside for the GOP here? Triggered defense cuts?
As Krugman and others have said, Repug extremism, sociopathy, sadism, anti-Americanism has no penalty, only reward.
"Triggered defense cuts"
Some Repugs are saying they won't vote for anything unless defense is left 100% untouched.
Why should Republicans in Congress hand Obama any political accomplishments when their declared mission is to beat him next year?
The very existence of such a super-committee highlights the dysfunction of the US Congress.Also, the supercommittee this deal creates is creepy as and a probable POS. It gives twelve members power and expediency and covers the backsides of the rest.
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The problem for Obama isn't that he folded this time. Its hard to be willing to force a government default in order to win a negotiatinon and I understand that. The problem is that in every meaningful debate prior to this Obama has folded. Who the thought he might be serious about going all the way when he never would before on last catastrophic scenarios?
If Obama lets the government shut down then he gets a better deal and he's more able to deal with congress. Instead he proved to be gutless back inn previous fights so there was no way tea party congressmen were going to blink at this point. You can't embolden your opposition and then try to win at the end. Doesn't work that way.
The problem for Obama isn't that he folded this time. Its hard to be willing to force a government default in order to win a negotiatinon and I understand that. The problem is that in every meaningful debate prior to this Obama has folded. Who the thought he might be serious about going all the way when he never would before on last catastrophic scenarios?
If Obama lets the government shut down then he gets a better deal and he's more able to deal with congress. Instead he proved to be gutless back inn previous fights so there was no way tea party congressmen were going to blink at this point. You can't embolden your opposition and then try to win at the end. Doesn't work that way.
Obama is the best Republican president since GWB. His base is becoming aware of it and the economy seems to be getting worse (GDP downgrades). Ordinarily that would bode well for the GOP, but these are not ordinary times.
If Barry wins in 2012, Barry won't win, the it's the Repugs election to lose.
If the Repugs win, it won't because of strong candidate and lots of popular support.
It will because Barry's ex-supporters will abstain. They aren't stupid enough to vote the (Repug) Devil We Don't Know (but we do know a Repug Pres and Congress would up country with bad-faith misgovernment and willful incompetence).
When national priorities and electoral expediency clash, national priorities lose. It's a very tough political neighborhood.
Mic e Bachman does not agree
"The 'deal' ... spends too much and doesn't cut enough," Bachmann said in a statement released Sunday after President Barack Obama announced the agreement with congressional leaders.
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"Is this the deal I would have preferred? No," Obama told reporters. "I believe that we could have made the tough choices required -- on en lement reform and tax reform -- right now, rather than through a special congressional committee process. But this compromise does make a serious down payment on the deficit reduction we need, and gives each party a strong incentive to get a balanced plan done before the end of the year."
"This isn't the deal the American people 'preferred' either, Mr. President," Bachmann said in her response. "Someone has to say 'no.' I will."
"Mr. President, I'm not sure what voice you're listening to, but I can assure you that the voice of the American people wasn't the voice that compelled Washington to act," she said in a statement after the president announced a deal with congressional leaders Sunday night. "It was you that got us into this mess, and it was you who wanted a $2.4 trillion blank check to get you through the election."
The only thing Barry is expediting is the VRWC/Repug steamroller, which has NO national priorities.
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Real Clear Politics Poll
Job Approval Approve Disapprove Spread
Obama 44.8% 50.1% -5.3%
Congress 19.2% 73.4% -54.2%
Direction of Country Right Direction Wrong Track Spread
RCP Average 25.3% 67.0% -41.7%
If Krugman is bent, you know something positive just happened for the country.
It's probably a harder job than community organizing.
Wow, dog bites man article there.
It ain't necessarily so. There's more to life than thwarting the adversary.
Easily. Obama has basically reduced the role of the presidency to that of a cheerleader. Sure, he can have town hall meetings and fire up "the fans", but he clearly doesn't have any pull with congress whatsoever. Obama gives a speech, congress shrugs it off and tells him how it's going to be.
you mean he upgraded the role from when dubya was pres. From mascot to cheerleader.
You sure do.much?
not dramatic at all.
With 25M un/malemployed or dropped out of the labor force and record US inequality and almos every measure of Human-Americans' and environmental quality of life in decline, VRWC actions have had extremely negative consequence for Human-Americans. The Repugs are simply ing up America with no relief in sight.
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