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  1. #26
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    Yeah actually, look at his numbers in 2009 and 2010.
    no, actually, this goes back to your inability to comprehend/see the effect Brady and BB have on a WR stats and perceived ability.

    when Brady got sick of Moss, Moss's inflated stats ended abruptly, his ability was still just on a slow decline

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    You said he only scored so many TDs in 2009 cause he was tall. That highlight video clearly makes that statement re ed. Getting behind the defense for a TD has nothing to do with being tall.
    so not a single TD came from him out-reaching a DB?

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    no, actually, this goes back to your inability to comprehend/see the effect Brady and BB have on a WR stats and perceived ability.

    when Brady got sick of Moss, Moss's inflated stats ended abruptly, his ability was still just on a slow decline
    I thought his ability declined rapidly from 2007 to 2009? It then slowed from 2009 to 2010?

    The truth is, Moss's ability is still there, his character is what ended his career. It got him kicked outa New England, and it got him retired because he wouldn't accept a deal where he had to earn his money.

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    so not a single TD came from him out-reaching a DB?
    backpedaling. I thought height was the big reason why he scored 13 TDs in 2009. Now all you're saying is his height led to at least one TD?

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    And watching that highlight video, I don't see his height being the main contributor to one single TD. His speed and ability to get separation is obvious a MUCH bigger asset to his playing style.

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    backpedaling. I thought height was the big reason why he scored 13 TDs in 2009. Now all you're saying is his height led to at least one TD?
    no, I'm just asking. how many were there? you posted the vid, watch it and count for me, youtube vids aren't playing for me right now

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    no, I'm just asking. how many were there? you posted the vid, watch it and count for me, youtube vids aren't playing for me right now
    I'm serious when I say that video shows his speed created WAY more TDs for him than his height did in 2009. Moss has never been a physical receiver who can use his height to win jump balls.

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    Asian guy talking about Jews
    anyone thinks a gook knows about anything outside of pickles and math
    jew talking about anything
    a guy with a head full of pubes has little room to talk about gooks

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    jew talking about anything
    a guy with a head full of pubes has little room to talk about gooks
    an Asian talking about anything
    a guy with eyes that are always closed shouldnt talk about Jews and should focus on trying to see

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    I'm serious when I say that video shows his speed created WAY more TDs for him than his height did in 2009. Moss has never been a physical receiver who can use his height to win jump balls.
    first TD = CB guarding against the fade/jump ball, moss pushes to the inside, smaller moss doesn't get this TD

    2nd TD = Flea Flicker,

    3rd TD = broken play, all tom brady

    4th = big body shields off defender for the outside shoulder pass, QBs don't usually throw that pass to smaller WRs, Malcolm Floyd makes this play, and makes it prettier

    5th = slant, big body big arms lead to broken tackle for TD

    6th = play puts him against safety alone, size allows him to shield off defender and go up and get ball

    7th = typical Pats route scheme gets him open, pass has to be high to keep away from underneath defender, short moss doesn't get the TD here

    8th = another typical pats unstoppable short yardage play, though revis is probably up in the face of a smaller WR here, rather than worried about the fade.

    9th = prefect throw and bad D

    10th = all height

    11th &12th = Scheme/Bad D/wide open

    13th = good play, brady had time to throw to the double move.


    most of the TDs here = result of Pats offense, size played a role almost half, Malcolm Floyd would have made all of these plays as well

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    neat, part 5 of Vander's re ed ass saying Malcolm Floyd = Randy Moss

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    neat, part 5 of Vander's re ed ass saying Malcolm Floyd = Randy Moss
    I get baited into it, also it's not really about Floyd, I just threw his name out there as example and they ran with it.

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    AFC:

    East: Patriots
    North: Steelers
    South: Colts
    West: Chargers

    WC: Ravens, Bills

    AFCCG: Bills over Steelers


    NFC:

    East: Eagles
    North: Packers
    South: Saints
    West: Cardinals

    WC: Falcons, Giants

    NFCCG: Packers over Saints (in one of the best/funnest games ever)


    SB: Bills over Packers.
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    Now to get back on track after a bit of a derailment of a predictions thread..

    AFC:

    East: Jets
    North: Ravens
    South: Texans
    West: Chargers

    WC: Pats, Colts

    AFCCG: Jets over Pats


    NFC:

    East: Eagles
    North: Packers
    South: Falcons
    West: Rams

    WC: Lions, Saints

    NFCCG: Packers over Falcons


    SB: Jets over Packers
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    Lol people here still picking the rams. Cards is a more complete team and has the weakest schedule out of all the 32 teams this season.

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    Lol people here still picking the rams. Cards is a more complete team and has the weakest schedule out of all the 32 teams this season.
    I agree the Cards are the more complete team but I am not a Kolb fan and being new to the system I think they are going to struggle to start off. I may be completely wrong of course but that is why it is a "prediction". I think the Rams could go 9-7 this year and win the division.

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    NFC

    North
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    Chicago (wild card)

    South
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    Atlanta (wild card)

    East
    Philadelphia

    West
    St Louis
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    AFC

    North
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    Steelers (wild card)

    South
    Indianapolis

    East
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    PLAYOFFS
    NFC championship game
    Green Bay over Philadelphia

    AFC championship game
    Patriots over Chiefs
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    Super Bowl
    Packers over Patriots


    CHEESE and the TROPHY goes again to the best QB in the NFL today....Aaron Rodgers and his defense.






    RAMS elite in 2013!

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    lol Cards fan making fun of the 49ers

    NFC

    Green Bay (detroit WC)
    Atlanta (new orleans WC)
    Philly
    Rams

    AFC

    Steelers (Baltimore WC)
    Indy
    New England (Jets WC)
    Chiefs


    SB Pack>Indy


    Packers may be able to pull off a NE type run here in the next 5 years, IMO

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    Lol people here still picking the rams. Cards is a more complete team and has the weakest schedule out of all the 32 teams this season.
    I wouldn't be talking about one of the other 31 teams that knows Max Hall doesn't belong on an NFL roster when you support your team having him.

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    thinking his 0 touchdown, 1 interception, 170 yard game against the Saints was good

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    South - Indy
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    East - Jets

    WC - NE and Jacksonville (MJD healthy, the Glitter Kitties go HAM beating out SD and the Houston 8-8's for the last wild card)

    AFCCG - Indy over Jets

    NFC

    South - ATL
    West - 49ers
    North - GB
    East - Eagles

    WC - NO and Chicago

    NFCCG - Packers over Eagles


    SB - Indy over Packers

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    I wouldn't be talking about one of the other 31 teams that knows Max Hall doesn't belong on an NFL roster when you support your team having him.

    Max Hall fan
    thinking his 0 touchdown, 1 interception, 170 yard game against the Saints was good
    He's got swag and moxie.

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    lol whisenhunt

    Why the is Max Hall still on the roster, Skelton is more than enough to fill the "longshot dark horse young 3rd string QB" role. IMO they should sign a veteran or some to fill the backup role, that'll be enough at QB. Heck I'd even take DA as the backup over what the have now.

    I also hope they're joking when they say they're "fine" with what they have at WR. Unless Stephen Williams is getting good a lot quicker expected, they don't have any semblance of a 2nd receiver.

    If they got the 2nd receiver and the left tackle position cleared up

    NFC West = fcked

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    lol whisenhunt

    Why the is Max Hall still on the roster, Skelton is more than enough to fill the "longshot dark horse young 3rd string QB" role. IMO they should sign a veteran or some to fill the backup role, that'll be enough at QB. Heck I'd even take DA as the backup over what the have now.

    I also hope they're joking when they say they're "fine" with what they have at WR. Unless Stephen Williams is getting good a lot quicker expected, they don't have any semblance of a 2nd receiver.

    If they got the 2nd receiver and the left tackle position cleared up

    NFC West = fcked
    Hall and not a vet is still there because the FO is saving money. They have to extend Fitz, shore up the Oline, get a #2 WR and build up a LB corps.

    A good tandem of TEs can mask the absence of a 2WR. Floyd and edwards are gone, Moss may be a possibility but just expect Komar, Doucet and Roberts to be #2 WR.

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    I don't know if we make the wildcard, we've heard this all before. What I do want is to wreck Peyton so bad week 1. Blitzkrieg dat azz!

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    Hall and not a vet is still there because the FO is saving money. They have to extend Fitz, shore up the Oline, get a #2 WR and build up a LB corps.
    Which they could do with cap room to spare. They still have cap room out the ass, and extending Fitz wouldn't cost much more as he's already making a ton.

    Getting someone who can actually play left tackle in the NFL should be their #1 priority tho.

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