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    Why does this get people's panties in a bunch?

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    Gatherings of atheists don't even register on my radar.

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    lmao ftmfw!!!

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    hhahahah... Perry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama in handling economic matters.
    Funny, I don't see anything in the OP about Obama

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    Why does this get people's panties in a bunch?
    Finding it hilarious that there are Americans dumb enough to think god and/or jeebus are gonna save the economy isn't exactly "getting your panties in a bunch"

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    country's downfall economically coincides perfectly with the decline in christian morals and values in this country tbh, and the worse it gets the worse the economy gets imho. no denying that.
    No it doesn't. Reagan was all about "Christian morals" and he was the cause of America's economic downfall.

    Either way, one has nothing to do with the other.

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    No it doesn't. Reagan was all about "Christian morals" and he was the cause of America's economic downfall.

    Either way, one has nothing to do with the other.

    hahhahahahahahahhahaha okay. Military spending is only 19 percent of the budget if you cut out veterans benefits. En lement spending is ing us.

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    it doesn't what reagan faked to be about, he doesn't represent every other citizen of this country. family values have been going down the ter ever since around the time the economy started ing up, and the worse things get the worse the economy gets.
    bro.. this has nothing to do with mommy calling daddeh sugar plum and beaver eating his vegetables. It has to do with our morality concerning wealth creation and our failure as a country to capitulate to 19th austro hungrarian century born statism.

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    hahhahahahahahahhahaha okay. Military spending is only 19 percent of the budget if you cut out veterans benefits. En lement spending is ing us.
    huh?


    This thread is about people being re ed and thinking divine intervention will save the economy, it has nothing to do with Obama's re ed spending.

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    People don't even know how to properly critique the laffer curve or trickle down economics. Reagan and the Democrat controlled legislature increased en lement and military spending were the reason why the deficit grew in the 80's, it wasn't because of lowering tax cuts itself. Lowering tax cuts can increase revenue when the private sector is ready to breach new markets. In the 80's the semitech silicon valley sector was booming and that would have provided us enough cover cept for the fact that time we increased en lement spending along with military.

    At least military spending is sanctioned in the cons ution.

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    Spending is ing us, but so is the tax system ignig. Decreasing spending AND increasing certain taxes is the only way that create significant surpluses. One without the other won't do enough.

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    huh?


    This thread is about people being re ed and thinking divine intervention will save the economy, it has nothing to do with Obama's re ed spending.
    I'm no mystic, but at best it's just people wishing that politicians would wisen up. It's funny to antagonize bible belt people but at the same time, they're not thinking that "God" is going to majically balance the budget with a majic wand.

    In either way, i don't feel the need to be hostile. , these people are the reason the state of Der Yisrael still has america's backing. So why bite the hand that feeds ya?

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    People don't even know how to properly critique the laffer curve or trickle down economics. Reagan and the Democrat controlled legislature increased en lement and military spending were the reason why the deficit grew in the 80's, it wasn't because of lowering tax cuts itself. Lowering tax cuts can increase revenue when the private sector is ready to breach new markets. In the 80's the semitech silicon valley sector was booming and that would have provided us enough cover cept for the fact that time we increased en lement spending along with military.

    At least military spending is sanctioned in the cons ution.
    That's why you significantly increase dividend income taxes. The rich sector has no interest in breaching new markets when they can generate tons of income off dividends and preferred stock but pay next to nothing in taxes.

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    , these people are the reason the state of Der Yisrael still has america's backing. So why bite the hand that feeds ya?
    Great argument, since I live in Israel and not America.

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    That's why you significantly increase dividend income taxes. The rich sector has no interest in breaching new markets when they can generate tons of income off dividends and preferred stock but pay next to nothing in taxes.
    You got to be kidding, the rich are the ones who create wealth in this country? Do you think ma Parker and her 230 dollar SS check helped spark the semitech revolution?

    You can't keep the welfare state alive if you punish the Capitalist Cows who provide the milk.

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    i just find it a funny coincidence that this country was founded on christian values and prospered from the start, as soon as we start turning into a liberal abortionist sexual state hits the fan.
    Yeah, we had so much better values when "Christian organizations" like the KKK were allowed to discriminate gays and minorities at will.

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    You got to be kidding, the rich are the ones who create wealth in this country? Do you think ma Parker and her 230 dollar SS check helped spark the semitech revolution?

    You can't keep the welfare state alive if you punish the Capitalist Cows who provide the milk.
    Letting money sit in stocks and collect dividends doesn't create any wealth. If you give the rich financial incentive to explore new markets they will.

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    Letting money sit in stocks and collect dividends doesn't create any wealth. If you give the rich financial incentive to explore new markets they will.
    That's right, the govt needs to tell professionals how to invest.

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    That's right, the govt needs to tell professionals how to invest.
    When they don't money sits and stays at the top.

    Whats funny is how much you care so much about the rich's well being and being worth billions instead of millions, when they don't give two s about you.

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    you're the king of pointing at a small group of people or a small example and using it to represent the whole.
    prior to the civil rights movement and Christian values "falling apart", the KKK wasn't a small group. It was millions of people who considered themselves "Christians", and the Christian religion for the most part accepted them. It wasn't like Westboro baptists being outcast by the Church. The KKK was deeply involved with the Church.

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    Clearly this country started going to when negroes and women started voting. If we could only go back to the good ol' moral standards

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    Clearly this country started going to when negroes and women started voting. If we could only go back to the good ol' moral standards

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    btw letting money sit in stocks helps create stability and wealth. i seriously don't know how you can encourage the rich to invest if you're idea of incentives is to have this egalitarian game of "fair" markets, anti trust bust, let's-punish-good-buisinesses-if-they-get-too-big laws that don't encourage people to maximize the potential out of their buisiness.

    And while your cartoonish description of the rich being some fat bloke with pinstripes, a top hat, eating cu ber sandwiches and clipping bond coupons all day image allows you to think the way you do. The reality is that markets are dynamic and change. If there is no innovation, then companies get phased like the kerosene market did to the light bulb etc. And to have innovation, you need people to have more of the money they make so that they can invest in more risky ways so that there can be new products.

    The whole notion that high marginal tax rates and heavy govt regulation is gonna bring us back to the glory days of yore in the eisenhower age is silly. We're not post World war 2 america who were the only major superpower who had their industrial base intact after the war, who benefiited by not having air raids demolish whole cities, and therefore allow it to be by default and providence the world's leading manufacturer. We know longer have a manufacturing base, so we can no longer go back to that model.

    Now, we have to change with the international markets and allow free trade to keep prices here in check. The less central planning you have in Govt, the more the market has the ability to thrive. Otherwise protectionism under the guise of progressive principles, and fair play only keep the huge corporations more powerful because they get and advantage at fighting the regulations with their money base compared to the Ma and Pa.


    You want to carry on, and hope that we all buy american again, and that we will moral choice in the market, but all you will have is calamity. The market is based on a principle of voluntary transaction, if the govt messes with that principle, then you have a market that deals with force.

    And you wonder why Labor organizations on one end are powerless against Crony corporations, and on the other former succesful corporations are held hostage by parastical unions, and why the INDIVIDUAL worker is powerless against bargaining for a pay raise against his employer, and why whole state budget's are hostage to public sector unions.

    Dealing by force in the market, whether it be through wage controls, price controls, anti trusts, Wagner act, govt subsidies, etc are what takes the "voluntary" out of transactions in a supposed free society.

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    Clearly this country started going to when negroes and women started voting. If we could only go back to the good ol' moral standards
    I don't know whether you are using blue text to show pride for Nazirgentina, or for being sarcastic, or both.

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    If there is no innovation, then companies get phased like the kerosene market did to the light bulb etc.
    Wrong. American car companies have no innovation for years and have gotten clobbered by Japanese car companies in sales, but because Republicans are so concerned with keeping the rich "wealthy and stable", they get their losses subsidized and get bailed out when they're on the verge of bankruptcy.

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