I'm talking about training camp. Every report out of Denver is saying that Tebow is getting completely undressed by Kyle Orton in training camp. Their coaching staff has remained firm in their stance Orton is the starter in spite of the fact Denver's entire fanbase loves Tebow and they could get a great package in an Orton trade. The only reason John Fox is so sure Orton is the starter is because Orton is clearly the better QB. If he picked Tebow as the starter and Tebow sucks, none of Denver's fans would hold it against him. If he picks Orton and Orton sucks, Denver's fans will want to come after him with pitchforks. Fox would be acting directly against his own interests if he was deliberately trying to make Tebow fail.
As for last year, when Josh McDaniels was coach, Tebow had a QB friendly coach who's job security was tied to proving Tebow was worth a first round pick. McDaniels was gonna do everything in his power to coach Tebow up and make his own draft pick look good. Now Tim Tebow has a coach who has A LOT less experience grooming QBs, and a coach who didn't draft Tebow so all he'll care about is what QB will help Denver win.