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Still waiting for an answer to this.
lol so-called
Still waiting for an answer to this.
The Israelites were a slave race for a majority of their existance prior ad 70. As Nietzsche pointed out, the israelis survived the gauntlet of persecution and slavery because they developed an altruist morality in which traits like "ambition" "pride" "beauty" 'blood lust" were seen as amoral and subs uted those values which the egyptians, babylonians, every warrior nation in the world at those times held dear, with the anti values. The an hesis of those values were "selflesness" "humility" meak n poor" "peace loving" etc.
These values that were a refutation of the master values helped the jew survive. If you had ambition, greed, beauty, nobility, blood lust, and pride you were more likely to revolt against your master and you and your progeny would die.
This morality was different once the jude secured their own land. They fused the Master-slave morality and were a fierce people ruled by priests, or philosopher kings.
Slavery at that time was necessary amongst all peoples in that era because they saw it better to enslave a whole nation instead of commiting genocide at times. It was a tool to ensure that your enemy could not rise against you and obliterate you.
It worked at times and failed in others. But that form of slavery was done out of fear.
What the Arabs and later the Christians did with africa carried more immorality for the africans were no threat, and they sought to have cheap labor.
Not defending either side.
Just that you all are fighting for nothing.
Who cares what was 'normal' back then? You're just beating around the bush with this stuff. We all know a lot of certain things were wrong back then. The question is why if god has so much wisdom, he couldn't foresee back then that the instructions passed in his name were simply wrong?
Define meaningful when it comes to a slave?
My God...
You cannot answer that simple question, which is a must, if Jehova were to say slavery must end.
What would the slaves do? What life would be better for them?
This is now the 4th or 5th time I am asking.
God couldn't find an alternative to slavery? He pretty much sucks at his job, then.
I thought the bible was supposed to outline the standards or morality humans should live by?
They would be free to do with their lives as they please? Isn't it obvious?
Indentured servitude was (supposed to be) a time-limited contract. 5-7 years normally.
Not sure what that has to do with god sponsoring beating up slaves, but okay.
At least he ensures the slaves survive for a "day or two", that was pretty cool of him.
When doctors can come up with an abortion procedure where the fetus survives for a day or two, it'll be a morally acceptable procedure
Plus abortion is 'pretty normal' nowadays, so that's basically cool.When doctors can come up with an abortion procedure where the fetus survives for a day or two, it'll be a morally acceptable procedure
He looks like he could use a bath. I wonder if FDR would be mocked for his religious beliefs. He frequently prayed in his radio addresses. Oh well, a bygone era.
It's quotes like this that caused him to wait for so long before revealing his iden y. Regardless of his personal hygiene, he's spot on.
Did FDR also call for an hour per week of prayer to deliver us from the grips of the depression?
"And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer: Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our Nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity. Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith. They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph. They will be sore tried, by night and day without rest—until the victory is won…
"And let our hearts be stout, to wait out the long travail, to bear sorrows that may come, to impart our courage unto our sons wheresoever they may be.
"And, O Lord, give us Faith. Give us Faith in Thee; Faith in our sons; Faith in each other; Faith in our united crusade. Let not the keenness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment—let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose. With Thy blessing we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy… Thy will be done, Almighty God."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE...&pageId=307493"And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer: Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our Nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity. Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith. They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph. They will be sore tried, by night and day without rest—until the victory is won…
http://forbes.house.gov/PrayerCaucus...?postid=244809"And let our hearts be stout, to wait out the long travail, to bear sorrows that may come, to impart our courage unto our sons wheresoever they may be.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-...79/replies?c=1"And, O Lord, give us Faith. Give us Faith in Thee; Faith in our sons; Faith in each other; Faith in our united crusade. Let not the keenness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment—let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose. With Thy blessing we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy… Thy will be done, Almighty God."
"We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out. "
"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith ...we need believing people. "
We got some FDR thumpers too.
No would have sufficed.
I don't know any practicing Christian that takes all the laws from Moses to heart either.
They all seem to pick and choose the ones that fit their belief systems.
they would be free. Wouldn't that be enough?
if not, then wandering through a wilderness for 40 years living on God's welfare system should be more than enough.
point being that God gave the green light to slavery.
Here's an interesting take from a blogger at lefty Firedoglake:
Perhaps some would be surprised to know that many on the Left regard Liberals with as much disdain as the right does?Liberal smirking and responses to Rick Perry’s Prayer Meeting
The truth, like it or not, and the facts are that Rick Perry Prayed a very smooth and sophisticated prayer. The fact is that he looked as “presidential” as Obama ever did during 2008. Those who didn’t attend should read the transcript of Perry’s prayer. I was there and heard it myself. There was nothing in his prayer that would have offended anyone. In fact, Perry even said “let us pray for the president and his family.” He did not pound anyone. Perry was even slicker than Reagan who, like many liberals, sometimes tended to sarcasm–a dishonest way to communicate with others.
I read in HuffPost today and on NPR that they are making fun of Perry because he made C’s and D’s–again while this may be entertaining for intellectual liberals, the fact is that many, if not the majority, of Americans are fed up with Ivy league college graduates. They are likely to say: WE’ve had ivy league graduates in the White House for the past 20 years and look at the mess they have ALL made of things. I think we all realize that intelligence is about a lot more than getting good grades in school. Writers from HuffPost and NPR should know better than to point out report cards as an indicator of intelligence.
Anti-Government Spending Crusader Rick Perry Accepted More Than $80,000 In Farm Subsidies
ogger on Aug 8, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Falling into line with the Tea Party rhetoric against “out-of-control” government spending, Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) is now supporting a move away from direct subsidies to the agriculture industry in favor of an incentives-driven model. But Perry himself has benefited from over $80,000 in farm subsidies over the years and publicly declared his support for farm subsidies when running for Texas Agriculture Commissioner in 1990. After his opponent accused him of wanting to terminate price supports for farmers, Perry was quick to deny the claim:
“[Former Commissioner Jim Hightower] says I support eliminating our farm program payments. That’s not true. I’ve participated in the program as a producer. My neighbors participate. I know what would happen to rural areas of Texas if these programs were discontinued. I do not support such an action.”
Perry certainly has benefited from the nation’s proclivity toward farm payouts; his 40-acre farm — which he finally sold in 1998 — brought him $72,687 in farm payments between 1987 and 1989 and even made him an additional $9,624 for leaving his land lying fallow. Perry’s father has also received $6,443 from cotton and wheat subsidies in 2002 and 2003.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...arm-subsidies/
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