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  1. #1
    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    I won't bother mentioning the names of those who abandoned their teams because of player acquisitions, rotations, strategies and such, and who did so pretty much mid season. Some of you have returned to join in on the victory celebrations.

    Do any of you feel you have lost just a small bit of what joy you could have felt had you not been consummate bandwagon riders? Does it eat at you just a little that you sold your team for a few pieces of forum silver, so you can later say "I was right, they sucked"? Don't you feel like that person who sold all their stock the week before the big buyout, for about 500x less than you could have gotten had you waited? Don't you feel like this guy, who doesn't belong there only no one told you?



    Since I haven't named anyone, just use that little twinge of guilt that tugs on your heart and your ego once you have read this to know if it's you, but you don't need to respond. Just ask yourself the question "Am I a piece of bandwagon riding sellout?" If you can say "no" honestly, it's not you.

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    One doesn't pick a team so much as a team picks you.

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    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    One doesn't pick a team so much as a team picks you.
    tbh, some people are always picked by winning teams

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    Veteran JoeTait75's Avatar
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    As long as you don't start rooting for another team you have nothing to be ashamed of.

    Nothing wrong with putting your fanhood on layaway. They're not en led to your non-stop fanaticism.

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    Never quit tbh

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    redirkulous mavsfan1000's Avatar
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    Nah. I don't feel ashamed. It is all a part of being a fan.

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    s never quit on the rockets even when they were aware that their nation's 7'6 hero was done with a career-ending injury, ignoring all the facts the s still believed the rockets team could win the #2 seed when they were in fact not at all a playoff team

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    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    s never quit on the rockets even when they were aware that their nation's 7'6 hero was done with a career-ending injury, ignoring all the facts the s still believed the rockets team could win the #2 seed when they were in fact not at all a playoff team
    I don't think they understand the game of basketball, just the game of idolization.

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    I think you should be ashamed. IMO, being a fan, in the context we use it around here, is not about being a blind homer. If you are a true fan you watch even in the tough times, even if your interest naturally wanes. You can understand the situation and temper expectations, but quitting on the team/denouncing the team is an entirely different story and something a good fan doesn't do.

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    As long as you don't start rooting for another team you have nothing to be ashamed of.

    Nothing wrong with putting your fanhood on layaway. They're not en led to your non-stop fanaticism.
    Bingo.

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    Fitness Made Simple John Basedow's Avatar
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    I think you should be ashamed. IMO, being a fan, in the context we use it around here, is not about being a blind homer. If you are a true fan you watch even in the tough times, even if your interest naturally wanes. You can understand the situation and temper expectations, but quitting on the team/denouncing the team is an entirely different story and something a good fan doesn't do.
    Wrong.

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    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    As long as you don't start rooting for another team you have nothing to be ashamed of.

    Nothing wrong with putting your fanhood on layaway. They're not en led to your non-stop fanaticism.
    No, there's nothing wrong with abandoning your team when times get hard and returning with hands held high when they win.

    I just hope people don't feel a tad bit cowardly because of it. It's only a game.

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    I don't think so at all. You can denounce management, a player(s), but not the team. If you do, you should be ashamed IMVHO.

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    I don't think so at all. You can denounce management, a player(s), but not the team. If you do, you should be ashamed IMVHO.
    Yeah, but you're talking about "ought" and I am talking about "do".

    Do people here feel ashamed? Whether or not they should is beside the point. Many will disagree on that.

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    Fitness Made Simple John Basedow's Avatar
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    I don't think so at all. You can denounce management, a player(s), but not the team. If you do, you should be ashamed IMVHO.
    You can denounce the team as well, and there are times when it's warranted...it is your right, and there's no need to be ashamed. No need to be an eternal lemming

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    It's not about being a lemming. You can be a bitter fan. You can be infuriated with play. You can hate certain players, the coach or management. Part of being a true fan is that you live through that and you stick by them even when things are low. It might not make logical sense to you, John, but that is how true fandom is measured, right or wrong.

    You don't abandon the team. If you do, don't be surprised when you aren't allowed back into the club.

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    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    You can denounce the team as well, and there are times when it's warranted...it is your right, and there's no need to be ashamed. No need to be an eternal lemming
    I agree with this, but what of those who do so and do a 180 when the team wins? Aren't those just fair weather fans? Aren't those bandwagon riders? If not, then those two terms are meaningless.

    If a woman only stayed with a man when he was doing well, most wouldn't consider that to be a loyal person.

    Why can't everyone just support the team that's winning, if loyalty doesn't matter?

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    As far as I'm concerned, there are situations where the team deserves to be abandoned.

    After the 2010 off season and 2011 season, Sarver deserves to be abandoned by the Suns fanbase IMO. He made a conscious decision to turn the Suns into , and the fans have a right to abandon an owner who has made it clear he'd trade winning for more profit.

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    Fitness Made Simple John Basedow's Avatar
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    It's not about being a lemming. You can be a bitter fan. You can be infuriated with play. You can hate certain players, the coach or management. Part of being a true fan is that you live through that and you stick by them even when things are low. It might not make logical sense to you, John, but that is how true fandom is measured, right or wrong.

    You don't abandon the team. If you do, don't be surprised when you aren't allowed back into the club.
    What a generic take on fandom...but being that you're a KoL fan, I guess generic is what you were shooting for.

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    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    As far as I'm concerned, there are situations where the team deserves to be abandoned.

    After the 2010 off season and 2011 season, Sarver deserves to be abandoned by the Suns fanbase IMO. He made a conscious decision to turn the Suns into , and the fans have a right to abandon an owner who has made it clear he'd trade winning for more profit.
    But what about if that fan/fanbase returns with "we are the champions" after the Suns pull it out (humor me)?

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    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    Dirk rose from the ashes, with me right beside him.

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    Dirk rose from the ashes, with me right beside him.

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    Fitness Made Simple John Basedow's Avatar
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    I agree with this, but what of those who do so and do a 180 when the team wins? Aren't those just fair weather fans? Aren't those bandwagon riders? If not, then those two terms are meaningless.

    If a woman only stayed with a man when he was doing well, most wouldn't consider that to be a loyal person.

    Why can't everyone just support the team that's winning, if loyalty doesn't matter?
    I understand what you're saying, but I wouldn't necessarily equate denouncing with disloyalty.

    I can say, for instance..."The Lakers played like a bunch of gutless gots in Game 4 against Dallas." I'd be denouncing them (i.e. speaking ill of them publicly, for those who didn't know the definition), but it doesn't mean I'm not still a Laker fan. It's a frustrating, truthful observation that won't affect my allegiance to the team as a fan.

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    on instagram, str8 flexin DUNCANownsKOBE's Avatar
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    But what about if that fan/fanbase returns with "we are the champions" after the Suns pull it out (humor me)?
    I wish I could but that's an irrelevant hypothetical. The Suns became exactly what Sarver knew they'd become, a lottery team.

    In the case of the Mavs, it was an inept front office trying hard and getting lucky. If I thought Sarver wanted a championship as badly as Cuban did, I'd still support the Suns.

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    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    Cubby wrong about dem Suns

    Sarver right about dem Suns

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