Whether or not it signifies his deadbeat-ness, you think that's a nice haircut?
I'm on the record saying that these are petty criminals and 'rebel' kids.
Not surprised though that the suckers that end up paying for 'austerity' are the have-not though. Isn't that what happened with the TARP too?
Plenty of photos out there. Since you already know they're deadbeats, it should only take you a cursory look.
Deadbeats have a lot of amenities others cannot afford, simply because whatever money they do have -- whether it be a government stipend or some relative off of whom they're mooching -- can be spent on wants instead of needs.
Are you unfamiliar with the phenomenon?
I'm showing well dressed people... not surprised you're pulling the race card though. I bet you want to see their birth certificate too.
I would kill to have that much hair at this point, tbh
I'm familiar with that phenomenon.
You haven't made the connection that these people are those people though.
There's actually fairly good indicators that they're not, like all of them getting organized via twitter. Or being well dress. Or being 15 year old kids. etc, etc, etc.
If they're destroying their city because austerity measures threaten to cut them off the public ...they're deadbeats.
So, tell me why they're burning down London.
I don't think there's any proof that's the reason. When asked point blank, they sure didn't say that. That's why I said earlier you would wish that to be the case and so does boutons (to which boutons already responded).
Because they can get away with it? I don't know. They were asked and didn't know either.
I've been following this quite closely because I have to travel there tomorrow and while the initial accident seems to be a tragedy, it has been used as an excuse for something totally different.
They just did the bravest thing on Sky News 5 minutes ago. The reporter was talking to some people in the streets of Birmingham live, when a group of "protesters" came by. The reporter invited them in front of the camera (or to stay behind it for privacy sake) and basically explain themselves. What are they doing, why...
It was sad to see those 15 years old boys struggling to invent a reason for their presence until one of them finally admitted they were there to get drunk and "get paid". Sad and stupid.
Props to Sky News to not switch off the camera and letting the whole thing play out live (even ignoring a few F-bombs and other foul language from the "protesters").
The again it was on Sky, so it could have been staged
Why would I wish it to be the case?
Whatever the case, it's not because they're productive members of society.
Do UK cops even carry guns these days? I remember they didn't use to.
Because you wouldn't miss the opportunity to rag about Europe handouts (an opportunity you couldn't pass up), while boutons would rag about oppressive austerity measures (an opportunity he didn't pass up either).
Certainly agree with that. Looks like spoiled kids to me.
I don't see "kids" in either of the two pictures you posted. One man appears to be in his mid to late 20's and the other are a bunch of middle-aged men.
Sorry, I'm getting close to 40... anything under 25 is a kid these days.
Here's an interesting read about this 'generation' of rioters. Apparently they're mostly youngsters.
London riots: 'A generation who don't respect their parents or police'
I'm fifty and anyone over 18, isn't a kid.
So, deadbeats.
Okay
How do you know they're getting any handouts? Link please.
I don't. But, until we know why they chose to burn down London, I'm standing by my assumption they're deadbeat who are pissed because austerity measures are ing up their lifestyle.
Your links to the contrary?
I didn't think you did. You probably didn't read one article linked to this thread either. I provided a link. Did you read it?
Nope. Why should I? As with every topic that is hotly debated in this forum, there are media outlets willing to support any and all positions.
The facts are this:
A bunch of people are rioting in England and pretty much laying waste to the London area.
I'm probably on safe ground assuming they aren't the productive segment of society that is probably watching their livelihoods being burned and ransacked on the nightly news.
So, why, exactly, are they scorching the earth?
If it's due to the austerity measures, then they're deadbeats.
If they don't know why they're doing it, then they're unproductive members of society and, therefore, deadbeats.
If it's some other reason, I'm open to hearing it.
Because you're asking for links?
So you don't know they're deadbeats, and you don't care to find out if they are or are not.
Okay, Yoni.
This isn't the first time the UK has to deal with rioting youngsters either. Anybody with good memory that knows a thing or two about the UK should remember their hooligans and constant clashes with the police. Had nothing to do with austerity measures either.
It was a tongue-in-cheeks response to your demand for a link. Still, if you thought it a serious request, you failed to provide any.
So, you don't know they're not deadbeats. And, no, I don't care to find out. What I do know, is no one is forwarding a reasonable explanation for why they have any good cause to be doing what they're doing.
I hope they're all caught up on some conflagration of their own making and the world is rid of them.
Why are you so defensive about deadbeats; are you one?
I'll make sure not to take you seriously then.
Should've started there...
Suit yourself.
Because mocking an out-of-context statement is the only way to continue in your argument.
I don't care to find out if they're deadbeats because, more importantly, I cannot think of a legitimate reason for them to be doing what they're doing. So, in that regard, being called a deadbeat is really at the low end of s scale for what they probably are.
I suspect many of them will become (and many already have become) criminals; rapists, murderers, arsonists, thieves, vandals, etc...
Take your pick; deadbeats is tame compared to what they've become over the past couple of days.
I'll make that decision...
There's nothing to discuss since you're not interested in discussing it.
What's to discuss? Criminals are laying waste to England. Whether or not they're deadbeats seems, to me, a minor point.
But, for grins and giggles, this excerpt from a BBC dispatch caught my eye...
I wonder if it occurs to them that "the rich" will not be much affected by the riots or the damage. That's what insurance is for.Two girls who took part in Monday night's riots in Croydon have boasted that they were showing police and "the rich" that "we can do what we want".
Now, the working class employed by "the rich" who will be out of jobs due to -- well -- there not being a place of employment standing; they're another matter. I suspect many of the hooligans (is that a better term than deadbeats) will realize that, like a hangover, when the breadwinners of their families join the ranks of the unemployed because their employers building was burned to the ground.
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