Looks like it isn't a minor point to you...
And the UK hooligans I was mentioning before were breadwinners themselves... nothing to do with deadbeats...
Just unruly sports fans in that case. They destroyed because they could get away with it. Criminal mind of the mob... whatever you want to call it.
Eventually the UK police got it under control.
It's what I think.
The larger issue, however, is that people -- whatever their motivation (and you've yet to counter with anything) -- are ing up Europe. That I believe it's because severe austerity measures are driving deadbeats to convulse, is my opinion.
Telling me I'm wrong and demanding that I support the premise is not a refutation.
Besides, I have precedence on my side. Same thing happened in Greece.
So, what's your theory?
Did you mention hooligans earlier? A coincidence, I assure you.
So it isn't a minor issue... okay.
I could explain that Europe is made up of 50 countries, that the UK situation is nothing like Greece, etc but you don't care to discuss this, so why should I care?
I wasn't sure
Regardless of whether these people are deadbeats by choice, the message behind the riots makes no sense. If they're mad at the government, small businesses are the last thing needs burning.
But then, you could turn around blame the education system for keeping the lower/minority classes 'where they belong.'
Spain had their rioters too (mostly university students) then they went away too...
Looks like the current fad, as stupid as that sounds...
Well, it's certainly more minor than what they're doing.
So you deny the UK is engaging in the imposition of austerity measures?
I could explain the European Union and how this has ed up everyone's economy over there and is a large reason why many of them are experience unrest but, you're too busy defending deadbeats.
Seriously, do you identify with them? Is that why you are so adamant about defending them against being called deadbeats?
No you aren't, you ing idiot.
Nope. Link where I denied that?
*attempts to pettifog obvious evidence of lack of empathy through selfishness and ignorance to the lives of others outside the white man*
Nope, you couldn't explain this either.
jesus christ, came into this thread to get some decent POV's and it becomes a ing YONI thread
gmafb
British Riots: Elites "Shocked" The Poor Are Rising Up Against Brutal Austerity Measures
the social unrest searing through the poorest boroughs in the country was "utterly unacceptable." The violence on the streets is being dismissed as ‘pure criminality,’ as the work of a ‘violent minority’, as ‘opportunism.’ This is madly insufficient. It is no way to talk about viral civil unrest. Angry young people with nothing to do and little to lose are turning on their own communities, and they cannot be stopped, and they know it. In one of the greatest cities in the world, society is ripping itself apart.
Violence is rarely mindless.
"Yes," said the young man. "You wouldn't be talking to me now if we didn't riot, would you?"
"Two months ago we marched to Scotland Yard, more than 2,000 of us, all blacks, and it was peaceful and calm and you know what? Not a word in the press. Last night a bit of rioting and looting and look around you."
Eavesdropping from among the onlookers, I looked around. A dozen TV crews and newspaper reporters interviewing the young men everywhere ‘’’
It has become clear to the disenfranchised young people of Britain, who feel that they have no stake in society and nothing to lose, that they can do what they like, and the police are utterly unable to stop them. That is what riots are all about.
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/151952
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The Largest Street Carnival Festival in Europe going back decades is scheduled for end of August. Several 100K people in the streets for a couple days.
http://www.thenottinghillcarnival.com/2011.html
I wonder if it will be cancelled? If it proceeds, it will no doubt have 10Ks of police.
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Your statement, your burden of proof.
Trying to shift it to someone else to prove the opposite is the epitome of weaseldom.
"I assume Yonivore has sex with goats."
"Oh yeah, what is your proof?"
"Until you can prove he DOESN'T have sex with goats, I will stand by my assumption.
See how that works?
A smattering of reactions @ Andrew Sullivan.
Recent disorders.
looks like a bunch of bums and hoodrats doing the trouble making to me...yes blame the society when ur life fails cause you didnt stay in school to get urself ahead of not working up the chain
Wayne Rooney trade rumors tbh.
We've all met overly coddling parents who spoil their kids and provide no discipline. Their kids are spoiled brats that walk all over them. Same can be said for an overly coddling secular nanny state. Pathetic.
One surprise was the presence of young men and women with regular jobs among the riot suspects lined up in police wagons outside courthouses in London and other cities. That raised questions about why they had been caught up in the kind of mayhem that has traditionally drawn on an underclass of alienated young people, with no jobs and few prospects.
Many of those who were remanded for trial appeared to come from just those kinds of backgrounds — evidence, as some commentators saw it, that the root causes of the disorders lay in social deprivation and despair. But those who stood before the courts for bail hearings in London, many of them still in their jeans and hooded sweatshirts, included a graphic designer, a postal employee, a dental assistant, a teaching aide, a forklift driver and a youth worker.
One 19-year-old woman was listed on court do ents as living in a converted farmhouse in a leafy, upmarket area of rural Kent that is part of what Londoners call the stockbroker belt. A 22-year-old woman gave her address as an upscale block of flats in a gentrified neighborhood of Hackney, one of the worst-hit riot areas in London. Local residents said that many of the residents of the apartments, which are valued at about $500,000, belonged to a community of affluent, middle-class people with jobs in London’s news media and art world.
link
Don't think a 'overly coddling secular nanny state' had anything to do with those folks...
What I find disgusting is politicians like Cameron talking about ethics and morals, tbh... like they're not sending the wrong message.
If the austerity trend continues with the lowest corporate and higher income tax rates in US history while cutting social services to the poor you can bet your ass that you will see this in major US urban areas as well.
We are entering a new epoch of world history and it ain't going to be pretty. Just sucks that has to go to to create real change. Current leadership isn't getting it done.
The incredible shrinking middle class sees the writing on the wall.
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