ITT: Lakerfan circle jerk
Kool regulating these s, penny for penny, pound for pount.
Old Jordan had ZERO respect for young and healthy Kobe
Though by then it was a kettle & a pot & a black thing. Jordan had crapped the bed quitting like he had and then skulking back at the end to try to finagle a ring. Uh, uh. Penny took his pants down, made him sorry. Made him eat the sandwhich, style.
And that'S still too much respect for him
Oddly enough though, when Daddy left, there went the team. Luckily for the Lakers' fans, Pau came along after a brief haitus by the franchise and rescued Kobe from the quagmire of mediocrity and first round exits.
Let's condense that garbage and make it legible:
Kobe won 0 rings without a dominant big, Pau or Shaq.
Kobe won 0 rings without the franchise player from another team (Pau or Shaq)
Kobe's team was up 3 to 1 against the Suns and lost in the playoffs. Shaq took Miami to a ring against a younger Dirk and JT, something Lebron wasn't able to do even against an older one.
Shaq had 3 MVP awards in the Finals while Kobe was in his prime, Kobe had none.
Summary: Kobe is Pippen, almost
Even Tony Parker has a Finals MVP...
^ Boiled down:::
Kobe: 5
tired old bag Duncan: 4
Careful, you know spurfan can't count
That's what I'm here for:::to teach 'em to tote up their cyphers.
It's my religion.
The "infamous 'side-kick' 3-peat"....how many Finals MVPs did Kobe win those years.....0 for 3.
How many did Timmy win....3 for 3
That's why he's the Robin to Shaq's batman. Go take your ppg and shove them up your ass.
Boiled down:::
Kobe: 5
tired old bag Duncan: 4
u mean duncan couldnt stop kobe because he was busy fighting for position with shaq & Gasol the 2 only reasons why kobes is sucessful. makes sense.
use your brain...I forget you have scrambled eggs between your ears....
but those le teams were built around Shaq and Kobe just happened to drop in on the party......none of those players really complimented Kobe's game...the Lakers didn't build around Kobe until they traded for Pau...and we all know how Kobe has turned Pau into a decent big man...despite his vaginal issues...
let me spread more of the gospel:
The biggest difference between Kobe & MJ is that Kobe was able to win without another Hall of Famer playing alongside him. MJ couldn't do squat without Pippen. This should put an end to it all really:
You Stat guys that say Kobe had Shaq let me up your world for a minute you should love this…lol
Jordan without Pippen (5 seasons):
.430 win %
0 les
0 MVPs
0 Finals MVP
0 Finals appearances
0 Playoff series wins
1-9 playoff record
0 NBA All Defense Team
0 NBA Defensive Player of the year
Kobe without Snaq (6 seasons):
.611 win %
3 Finals appearances
2 Championships
1 MVP (Reg season)
2 MVP (Finals)
5 NBA All Defense 1st Team
81 points in 1 game
62 points in 3 quarters (outscored Mavs all by himself)
4 straight 50+ pt games
30 straight 40+ games averaged 40 for a month
Kobe 3 Seasons without Shaq or Gasol:
.492 win %
0 les
1 Regular Season MVP
0 Finals MVP
0 Finals appearances
0 Playoff series wins
4-8 playoff record
3 NBA All Defense Team
0 NBA Defensive Player of the year
In every scenario Kobe has a higher win percentage than MJ without Pip...marinate on that
2009/2010 Kobe was a glorified Pippen in an era where the other NBA powers were waning. He won his MVP the same way TP won his, because someone else on the team carried the lion's share of the defensive load and allowed him to be offensively effective.
Also, it's well known that neither Kobe nor the last decade Lakers develop anyone, players or coaches. They extract talent from the NBA by means of strong handed, deep pocketed "negotiations" that lead to people like Shaq and Pau going to LA. No other team in the league save Boston would be able to attract that level of effective talent. Lebron went to play with his friend in Miami, but normally talent like that ends up in LA or Boston. So Kobe didn't turn Pau into anything. Funny that his brother is becoming such a force since he got to the team where Pau was, eh?
Go back and look at Kobe's averages against the Magic, stain.
First be someone I give a about debating and hit me up then.
Have we met?
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Kobe has 4 rings, the game 6 of the '02 WCF was rigged.
That's a fact.
Who are you little man? You're one of the most ted on posters in spurstalk history.
Anfernee Hardaway?
Someone who didn't have to make a new account to continue posting.
don't stick to me.
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