Calling A&M's Bluff

[coyotes_geek]

Too bad the Big12-2 couldn't figure out some way to bring in TCU. That might have helped them survive as a conference. What about SMU? June Jones has them headed in the right direction. Tulsa?

There are opportunities to expand again, just won't be replacing departures with power schools (at least in athletics)

I'd think that OU and OkSt would veto Tulsa. SMU is a possibility though. New Mexico is another option.

[symple19]

Don’t expect the SEC to expand by one and leave the league with an uneven number of schools. The SEC will expand only for value, and that means television markets and/or recruiting territory.

With Texas A&M as the first choice, the SEC gets a geographic footprint in the state of Texas and lands the mega television market of Houston (75 miles outside College Station). That also will allow the league to compromise more on a second team, should Oklahoma decline an invitation.

If the SEC can’t get Oklahoma—a Big 12 source told Sporting News last month that both the Texas A&M and Oklahoma board of regents had approved a move to the SEC in the summer of 2010 before Beebe saved the league—the SEC likely stays in the south for expansion. Forget about Florida State, Miami or Georgia Tech. Current SEC schools in those states won’t allow it. Virginia Tech and Missouri would be secondary considerations.

That means Louisville and Clemson are at the top of the list. With either addition, the SEC adds programs not afraid to spend money to get bigger (have you seen Louisville’s NBA arena and Clemson’s SEC-style football stadium?). Adding Louisville would bring the league a major basketball power, and adding Clemson would strengthen the overall sports program of the conference.

Kentucky and South Carolina may not initially be agreeable to such expansion, but Slive and the conference presidents would convince them of the long-term benefits—specifically, renegotiation of multi-billion dollar televisions deals with CBS and ESPN.

Adding Louisville or Clemson would allow the league to easily slot two new teams into the East and West Divisions. When Texas A&M and Oklahoma were debating moving last summer, there were informal talks about divisional realignment that would send Alabama and Auburn to the East and slot OU and TAMU in the West.



Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foo...#ixzz1Uli0Vtik

[symple19]

A take from AL.com and the Birmingham news:http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2...eels_inev.html

The SEC has stayed quiet during this latest round of speculation. At SEC Media Days a couple weeks ago, SEC Commissioner Mike Slive said he could add members if he wanted to in 15 minutes.

[Sisk]

No seriously, what in the contract is causing you to leave other than high school football being aired?

What am I, your ing teacher? Do some research yourself. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that this deal is bad for A&M.

[DesignatedT]

What's the general consensus regarding TAMU to the SEC that you are receiving Symple? For it, against it?

[Kermit]

What am I, your ing teacher? Do some research yourself. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that this deal is bad for A&M.

Because you can't tell me, because you're a ing moron.

You don't know.

Is this where I post a picture of some inbred, redneck comedian?

It's not supposed to be good for you. Wait, didn't Deloss extend you an invitation to join?

[Kermit]

What's the general consensus regarding TAMU to the SEC that you are receiving Symple? For it, against it?

Guaranteed win on most SEC schedules. Why wouldn't they be excited?

[Kermit]

And Florida State is alledgedly the 14 member of the SEC.

[Sisk]

Because you can't tell me, because you're a ing moron.

You don't know.

Is this where I post a picture of some inbred, redneck comedian?

It's not supposed to be good for you. Wait, didn't Deloss extend you an invitation to join?

I do know. I've read much of the contract between tu and espn. How much have you read? Probably none. I'm not here to ing educate you.

I'd educate you on the "offer" that was given to us, but I don't really care to explain. Let's just say that the offer was , and it was never going to be taken.

[Sisk]

Guaranteed win on most SEC schedules. Why wouldn't they be excited?

Sounds like texas last year.

I wonder if UCLA will lay another beat-down on the sips this year.

[Kermit]

I do know. I've read much of the contract between tu and espn. How much have you read? Probably none. I'm not here to ing educate you.

I'd educate you on the "offer" that was given to us, but I don't really care to explain. Let's just say that the offer was , and it was never going to be taken.

You don't know . You've proven that. You can't even answer a simple question. Even now you can't google some and come up with a half-assed answer. I guess you're busy doing something else. Well, you had better go. Those sheep are not going to themselves.

[Kermit]

Sounds like texas last year.

I wonder if UCLA will lay another beat-down on the sips this year.

Texas last year had a better year than Aggy most years. And yes, UCLA is going to beat us down. What kind of question is that?

[Sisk]

You're right. I don't know anything about the lhn or even where Texas A&M is located.

What I do know, is that you are an arrogant sip (probably a t-shirt fan, as most of you gots are) that has some false sense of en lement because of the school he roots for.

[Kermit]

You're right. I don't know anything about the lhn or even where Texas A&M is located.

What I do know, is that you are an arrogant sip (probably a t-shirt fan, as most of you gots are) that has some false sense of en lement because of the school he roots for.

[symple19]

What's the general consensus regarding TAMU to the SEC that you are receiving Symple? For it, against it?

lol, I talked some last year about Aggie when the first speculation began, but I was just trollin

tbh, I've got no problem with it. It's ultimately going to strengthen the SEC in some important ways which have already been discussed here.

It's also going to force the SEC to add one more team, which I have no doubt will be a positive addition in more than one way. More money, more exposure, more recruiting area, etc.

There are going to be some traditionalists(re:morons) out there who will be against it, but overall I think there will be a positive reception

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I'm in NC on business right now so I'm not home in Lexington where I could get a better gauge on what people are thinking. I've only talked to one of my Auburn friends since this broke and he's all for it like I am.

SEC people get scoffed for this, but we generally have a desire to be out in front of things and BETTER than everyone else in sports. For no reason should SEC people resist expansion while the Pac-12 and the Big whatever are getting bigger.

I think the only way you would see any kind of backlash is if traditional rivalries get broken up, which isn't going to happen unless the league expands beyond 14 teams

Check that AL.com link I gave above and read the comments under the A&M article. Just make sure to wade through all the AU/UA trolling/bashing/ talking. You might actually find some cogent points in there (btw, those comment threads are always like that, 24/7/365 )

[symple19]

Also, Dirk4MVP is in Oxford and might be able to give you a decent idea of what an SEC campus is thinking about it

[symple19]

Guaranteed win on most SEC schedules. Why wouldn't they be excited?

couldn't help but lol

HOWEVA, if A&M keeps recruiting the way they have been it probably won't be that way for too long. Their recruiting can only get better if they join the SEC

[Sisk]

couldn't help but lol

HOWEVA, if A&M keeps recruiting the way they have been it probably won't be that way for too long. Their recruiting can only get better if they join the SEC

Our 2012 class should be excellent and we've already received some commits for the '13 season. For next year we've got arguably the best QB in the state coming and the 2nd ranked (rivals) RB coming in. If we go next year it'll be rough as our team will be extremely young, but the '13 season should go well for us.

[Sisk]

[Kermit]

It's a beautiful thing to be the Joneses.

[leemajors]

i don't see how UT can be blamed for taking the money. they would be stupid not to.

[dirk4mvp]

tbh I'm pretty indifferent towards it. But like I said earlier adding Texas to the recruiting process is a benefit.


there is a lot of mixed reaction on this SEC board.

http://www.sectalk.com/boards/sec-fo...l#.TkSAe2M0iSo

[Sisk]

i don't see how UT can be blamed for taking the money. they would be stupid not to.

I don't blame texas for taking money at all. You're right, it would be stupid not to do so.

However, from Texas A&M's standpoint, it's bad for us. That's why we're leaving.

[DMX7]

5-7 after having just won the conference championship. What has Texas A&M won in football? They can't even win the AlamoBowl much less a BCS game.

[symple19]

tbh I'm pretty indifferent towards it. But like I said earlier adding Texas to the recruiting process is a benefit.


there is a lot of mixed reaction on this SEC board.

http://www.sectalk.com/boards/sec-fo...l#.TkSAe2M0iSo

I've actually got over 500 posts there from a few years ago. It's an awful board filled with dip s who stroke each other off all the time and it's moderated to death.

Not a good sample, imo