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    The fluid militarization of police/public relations, has been striking.

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    Saw this guy and immediately thought of our resident racists here. this guy is for you, Darrin and partschanger!


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    After British Riots, Conflicting Answers as to ‘Why’

    “Why?”

    That question has been at the heart of a fraught national debate as Britons puzzle over what drove even some previously law-abiding people to steal, sometimes risking arrest for nothing more than bottles of water. The debate has often divided people into predictable camps.

    The Conservative prime minister, David Cameron, stood up in Parliament as Britain smoldered around him on Thursday and railed against “mindless violence and thuggery.” His critics on the left blame deep mistrust of the police in poor communities, and income inequality they say will worsen as his government pursues sweeping cuts in spending and social welfare.

    Some commentators have blamed modern society at large. The Daily Telegraph struck a popular chord when it blamed a “culture of greed and impunity” that it said extended to corporate boardrooms and the government itself. Many politicians, meanwhile, have lashed out at technology — including the instant messaging that encouraged looting — for whipping up the crowds.

    But as more details of the crimes emerge, the picture has become infinitely more complicated, and confusing. In some of the more shocking cases, the crimes seemed to be rooted in nothing more than split-second decisions made by normally orderly people seduced by the disorder around them.

    At several of the riots last week, those perpetrating the violence had no ready explanation for their behavior.

    Even some Londoners who had initially condemned the riotous behavior joined in. Bystanders had watched in shock as rioters lined up against police officers on Tottenham’s main street last weekend, setting fires and looting. The mood shifted dramatically, though, after officers moved in, dogs barking and horses charging.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/14/wo...gewanted=print

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    Essex Police Arrest Man Over Blackberry Water Fight Plan

    "Under the banner headline 'Police reassure residents they are working to keep county safe,' Essex police proudly proclaimed that they arrested a 20-year-old man from Colchester who 'allegedly sent messages from a Blackberry encouraging people to join in a water fight.' Having also made a number of arrests of people sitting at home on Facebook, Acting Assistant Chief Constable Mason wrote: 'Police will continue to monitor social networking sites for unlawful activity.'"

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    Saw this guy and immediately thought of our resident racists here. this guy is for you, Darrin and partschanger!

    Let me get this strait.

    Because we are neither politically correct, or believe blacks are inferior, we are racists?

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    Let me get this strait.

    Because we are neither politically correct, or believe blacks are inferior, we are racists?



    I believe that is in fact the definition of racism. With a nice touch of Supremacism thrown in...

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    I believe that is in fact the definition of racism. With a nice touch of Supremacism thrown in...
    I could have reversed it.

    Because we neither believe blacks are inferior, or we are politically correct, we are racists?
    It means the same thing either way.

    I have repeatedly in the past said it is those who are politically correct to the point of believing in quota systems who are the racists, because they believe blacks are inferior, and need that help.

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    Years of liberal dogma have spawned a generation of amoral, uneducated, welfare dependent, brutalised youngsters

    ...

    So there we have it: a large, amoral, brutalised sub-culture of young British people who lack education because they have no will to learn, and skills which might make them employable. They are too idle to accept work waitressing or doing domestic labour, which is why almost all such jobs are filled by immigrants.

    They have no code of values to dissuade them from behaving anti-socially or, indeed, criminally, and small chance of being punished if they do so.

    They have no sense of responsibility for themselves, far less towards others, and look to no future beyond the next meal, sexual encounter or TV football game.

    They are an absolute deadweight upon society, because they contribute nothing yet cost the taxpayer billions.

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    coming soon to Socialist America, when passive destruction of society just isn't enough

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    "So there we have it: a large, amoral, brutalised sub-culture of young British people who lack education because they have no will to learn, and skills which might make them employable. They are too idle to accept work waitressing or doing domestic labour, which is why almost all such jobs are filled by immigrants.

    They have no code of values to dissuade them from behaving anti-socially or, indeed, criminally, and small chance of being punished if they do so.

    They have no sense of responsibility for themselves, far less towards others, and look to no future beyond the next meal, sexual encounter or TV football game.

    They are an absolute deadweight upon society, because they contribute nothing yet cost the taxpayer billions."


    this pretty much defines american kids tbh

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    Maybe they realize that social mobility is only going down, and the big gamble they had to make taking out a loan to pay for ever rising tuition prices isn't going to pay off for them, seeing the unemployment lines.

    As somebody else said a while ago, not everybody can be at the top. Just don't expect those that cannot make it to put their heads down and walk quietly into the night.

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    Way it goes.

    The have-nots want the luxury of the haves.

    Its been this way forever. The only difference is, expectations of what cons utes being a "have" has changed dramatically. Before it was food, shelter, freedom and ownership.

    Now its money, phones and undeserved respect.

    Some people thinking being born is some kind of accomplishment and deserve some level of respect for it.

    When in fact, most every person is a piss-ant not worth the air they breathe. The sooner they get to killing each other, the better.

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    Way it goes.

    The have-nots want the luxury of the haves.

    Its been this way forever. The only difference is, expectations of what cons utes being a "have" has changed dramatically. Before it was food, shelter, freedom and ownership.

    Now its money, phones and undeserved respect.

    Some people thinking being born is some kind of accomplishment and deserve some level of respect for it.

    When in fact, most every person is a piss-ant not worth the air they breathe. The sooner they get to killing each other, the better.
    Don't necessarily disagree that this is sometimes the case.

    But it's also undeniable that the gap between the have and have-nots has grown. I don't justify the bull these people do by it, but if we're looking at the why, then you can't overlook it either.

    Obviously, this gets magnified when the recession hits.

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    Don't necessarily disagree that this is sometimes the case.

    But it's also undeniable that the gap between the have and have-nots has grown. I don't justify the bull these people do by it, but if we're looking at the why, then you can't overlook it either.

    Obviously, this gets magnified when the recession hits.
    Oh no, please do not misunderstand me.

    The gap had widened considerably, to unsustainable levels. But the middle class will either do what Americans are doing (nothing at all) or do what the Middle East countries have been doing (revolution).

    Running around stealing things and burning buildings/cars isnt a sign of civil unrest or even an indicator of civil order. To me, its backlash for the sake of it.

    Which I am not against, tbqh, so long as they are aware that the people theyre stealing from have a right to protect their property (in America anyway). As long as both sides have that clear understanding, I say roll with it.

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    Oh no, please do not misunderstand me.

    The gap had widened considerably, to unsustainable levels. But the middle class will either do what Americans are doing (nothing at all) or do what the Middle East countries have been doing (revolution).

    Running around stealing things and burning buildings/cars isnt a sign of civil unrest or even an indicator of civil order. To me, its backlash for the sake of it.

    Which I am not against, tbqh, so long as they are aware that the people theyre stealing from have a right to protect their property (in America anyway). As long as both sides have that clear understanding, I say roll with it.
    Agreed

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    Way it goes.

    The have-nots want the luxury of the haves.

    Its been this way forever. The only difference is, expectations of what cons utes being a "have" has changed dramatically. Before it was food, shelter, freedom and ownership.

    Now its money, phones and undeserved respect.

    Some people thinking being born is some kind of accomplishment and deserve some level of respect for it.

    When in fact, most every person is a piss-ant not worth the air they breathe. The sooner they get to killing each other, the better.
    Oh no, please do not misunderstand me.

    The gap had widened considerably, to unsustainable levels. But the middle class will either do what Americans are doing (nothing at all) or do what the Middle East countries have been doing (revolution).

    Running around stealing things and burning buildings/cars isnt a sign of civil unrest or even an indicator of civil order. To me, its backlash for the sake of it.

    Which I am not against, tbqh, so long as they are aware that the people theyre stealing from have a right to protect their property (in America anyway). As long as both sides have that clear understanding, I say roll with it.


    DR's got it straight here.

    Agree 100%

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