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Low quality, but here is the bit. (The segment can be seen at the link in the OP)
Ooooh man Stewert nails it again.
Yummy.
http://www.businessinsider.com/daily...y-video-2011-8
Jon Stewart had a warm welcome in store for Megyn Kelly on "The Daily Show" last night.
After interpreting her maternity-leave rant in a fantastic mob dialect, Stewart delivered his counterpunch by pointing out that Kelly used to hate mandated benefits.
The fantastic mashup speaks for itself -- and makes Kelly look like a huge hypocrite.
"They're really only en lements when it's something other people want," Stewart said. "When it's something you want... it's the foundation of a great society."
Low quality, but here is the bit. (The segment can be seen at the link in the OP)
It's not an en lement.
conservativism at it's core is hypocritical
Um, what?
Is paid maternity leave mandated by law in the US?
Gold. Stewart's been nailing it down of late.
Wait, so you think en lements have to be mandated by law?
You guys are hilarious when you try to play semantics like this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En lementWait, so you think en lements have to be mandated by law?
You guys are hilarious when you try to play semantics like this.
Aren't they?Wait, so you think en lements have to be mandated by law?
(haven't looked at the OP yet)
No.
Finally watched the OP - yep, Megyn Kelli is a hypocrite.
I'll become a socialist now.
Darrin, the first sentence from that link is below:
An en lement is a guarantee of access to benefits basedon established rights or by legislation. A "right" is itself an en lement associated with a moral or social principle, such that an "en lement" is a provision made in accordance with legal framework of a society.
Federal law mandates that employers cannot fire female employees for taking maternity leave. Thus, I think there's certainly an en lement to maternity leave for women who deliver babies, insofar as their jobs are protected by law.
Whether the leave is paid or not is a different question, but there is a basic en lement to time off after the birth of a child.
When people talk about "en lements" they are talking about the legally mandated variety.
Family Leave Act.
So leave mandated by federal law isn't an en lement of the legally mandated variety?
I think I included the word "paid" in post #7.
Sure. That also protects the employee's right to leave. The "leave" is the en lement -- before the Pregnancy Discrimination Act (or the FMLA), an employer was not prohibited from firing an employee for taking leave after the birth of a child. Now, the government protects the employee's right to that leave. If your definition of en lement is a legally mandated right, I have no idea how you can argue that leave after pregnancy isn't an en lement.
Yes. FMLA mandates that she has a job when she returns. How is that not an en lement?
I'm not disagreeing with you. Leave is an en lement, PAID leave is not.
In Stewart's clip, the word "paid" is used only once by my count; Kelly's pre-leave rants about en lements certainly aren't shown to have turned on the leave she rails against having been paid leave.
I'm not sure why you would insist upon it as an essential part of the definition of en lement -- other than that it is the only way that your argument can even be tenable.
When people talk about "en lement programs" in the US, they are talking about SS, Medicare, and Medicaid, not discretionary employee benefits.
I see what you did there.
I'd think you meant to say:
"When I and people who think like I do talk about 'en lement programs' in the US, they are taking about SS, Medicare, and Medicaid, not discretionary employee benefits."
And, since we're here, maternity leave isn't a discretionary benefit -- still.
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