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  1. #26
    Veteran JoeTait75's Avatar
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    Browns fans better not hope he gets them to a Super Bowl. He would probably fake an injury and sit out.
    You just put "Browns" and "Super Bowl" in the same sentence.

  2. #27
    Allenhu Joshbar DeadlyDynasty's Avatar
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    You just put "Browns" and "Super Bowl" in the same sentence.
    Who gets more W's this year, Browns or Bills?

    Sidebet?

  3. #28
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    Who gets more W's this year, Browns or Bills?

    Sidebet?
    I'll say the Browns. Not because they're better than Buffalo, but because they play the NFC West while the Bills play the NFC East.

    Then again, the Browns are planning on running a WCO without any wide receivers and a 4-3 without any defensive linemen, which usually doesn't make for many wins.

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    Yeah the Browns running a WCO makes no sense given that their best offensive player is Hillis and they have a good run blacking O-line. They should be trying to run the ball and eat up clock as much as possible.

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    That's what annoys me about coaches these days- they're married to "their" system, regardless of the personnel they actually have. It doesn't matter that the Browns don't have the receiving talent to run a WCO, that their strengths are Hillis, the offensive line and the tight ends. Holmgren/Shurmur are "West Coast guys," so dammit, they're going to run a WCO.

    Used to be coaches would use their talent to dictate what kind of offense and defense they ran. The Browns ran a 3-4 in the late '70s and '80s not because their defensive coaches were "3-4 guys," but because they had better talent and depth at linebacker than on the DL.

    Then again I think Holmgren is just stealing money for his retirement at this point anyway. You watch, he'll blow town in a year or two and this organization will start over yet again.

  6. #31
    Allenhu Joshbar DeadlyDynasty's Avatar
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    The noew KO rules are gonna hurt the Browns more than most teams as well...Cribbs was/is huge for them

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    on instagram, str8 flexin DUNCANownsKOBE's Avatar
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    What are these kickoff rules I keep hearing about?

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    Allenhu Joshbar DeadlyDynasty's Avatar
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    What are these kickoff rules I keep hearing about?
    Teams can now elect to kick from the 35 yard line if they so choose. They're trying to cut down on injuries, but eliminating an exciting and important aspect of the game while doing so.

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    What are these kickoff rules I keep hearing about?
    it's moved to the 35 yd line

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    Teams can now elect to kick from the 35 yard line if they so choose. They're trying to cut down on injuries, but eliminating an exciting and important aspect of the game while doing so.
    There is no choice. They have to kick off from the 35.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl-wp5084

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    Teams can now elect to kick from the 35 yard line if they so choose. They're trying to cut down on injuries, but eliminating an exciting and important aspect of the game while doing so.
    I don't think you can 'elect' to do it, I think you have to.

  12. #37
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    I stand corrected. Still, I don't like it.

  13. #38
    go balls deep for jesus Kermit's Avatar
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    I stand corrected. Still, I don't like it.
    It's a stupid rule.

  14. #39
    The cat won symple19's Avatar
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    It's a stupid rule.
    x's 3

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    If you want to kick from the 30 you can always go offside on the kick, or get a delay of game penalty, etc. I guess the receiving team could decline, tho.

    Still, it would be funny to see some of the coaches do this to send the league office a big "SCREW YOU, NFL."

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    What I think will happen with the new kickoff rule is that kickers will start kicking the ball really high to get a lot of hangtime, but not into the endzone, and that speedy ST players will have less ground to cover and be able to run down and tackle the guy as soon as he catches the ball around the 5/10 yard line.

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    Just a quick question.

    When I defend Vince, do I come across like 90210? If so, I'll shut the up.

    Did you really call Colt the greatest college quarterback of all time? Jesus Christ.
    No...I didn't. They obviously don't believe it, but I was saying it to get a reaction. I'm not that ing stupid.

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    No...I didn't. They obviously don't believe it, but I was saying it to get a reaction. I'm not that ing stupid.
    yes you did, and yes you are

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    No...I didn't. They obviously don't believe it, but I was saying it to get a reaction. I'm not that ing stupid.
    we all know you are that stupid, even if I wasn't going to post the following conversation:

    Dude..McCoy is a beast. I'll always have a soft spot for Vince and he'll probably always be my favorite for bringing Texas back to the top, but McCoy is better, IMO. Gilbert will be good, but he's no McCoy, man...
    I don't know about that.

    Do you think Colt could have done what VY did against USC? No way. Colt's a better passer, but VY was the best college QB ever. No QB ever could singlehandedly take-over and dominate games the way VY was able to. Thats why I still would take him over Tebow as well. Tebow is great, but he doesnt just dominate games the way VY would, and has a much more gimmicky system to benefit from. Basically, it's easier to find a gameplan to stop McCoy or Tebow than it is for Vince.
    That's a great argument, stretch. It actually kinda made me think about it a bit. You might be right.
    if that's a troll job, it's the most boring troll job I have ever seen.

  20. #45
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    we all know you are that stupid
    back to the whole "I've never met you, but I know you" thing..always good for a laugh, Blake..always good for a laugh. Why don't you follow me around and obsess like Symple19 has been doing..maybe you'll actually get to know me...wait..no you won't...because you've never met me...and I don't know you. Cause it's a ING INTERNET FORUM

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    The cat won symple19's Avatar
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    back to the whole "I've never met you, but I know you" thing..always good for a laugh, Blake..always good for a laugh. Why don't you follow me around and obsess like Symple19 has been doing..maybe you'll actually get to know me...wait..no you won't...because you've never met me...and I don't know you. Cause it's a ING INTERNET FORUM
    You, sir, are the gift that keeps on giving

    Maybe you should stick to talking about wrestling

  22. #47
    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    back to the whole "I've never met you, but I know you" thing..always good for a laugh, Blake..always good for a laugh. Why don't you follow me around and obsess like Symple19 has been doing..maybe you'll actually get to know me...wait..no you won't...because you've never met me...and I don't know you. Cause it's a ING INTERNET FORUM
    lmao said to get a reaction

    you're stupid because of what you've said on these internets, tbh

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