NBA Insider Request for article on Spurs

[ivanfromwestwood]

you guys are plain ing re ed even thinking about trading duncan. we owe a great debt to tim for being such a cornerstone for over a decade of basketball where i felt every year we could have won. i would trade peter holt before i trade duncan.

[Shifty]

At first I jumped ahead at the lineups given at the end and thought this was one more BS article from a ESPN’s “insider”. Then when reading all the caveats and some of the explanations it didn’t seem as bad. You have to consider that he is only providing ideas if rebuilding is the way the FO wants to go. I’m sure we could end up way worse than his suggestions. Actually, we probably will at some point. This core has to end somehow, either retirement from TD, Manu or both, or trades. We could all agree we would rather have a lousy team and completely rebuild for a few years if we wait for them to retire as Spurs than probably having a mediocre team and start over 5 years later if we decide to trade them.

We have to accept we could never get equal value for any of the big3. His suggestions are actually better than what I think we would end up getting.

[TD 21]

I'd say what was he thinking, but that would suggest he was thinking at all. This is the second time in a couple of months that Bucher has come up with a litany of ridiculous trades involving the Spurs. Both times his primary objective was to acquire an athletic four, who can shoot and both times he's failed to mention what's probably the most likely possibility: Amir Johnson.

Johnson doesn't have the ball skills of Smith, but he works harder, plays within' himself, is significantly cheaper and probably won't cost the Spurs more than Blair, in terms of value. Jefferson/Blair for Johnson/Kleiza or Blair/McDyess for Johnson, works.

Let's presume for a moment that the former occurs (it's more likely, given that it doesn't increase payroll). Now let's presume that this three-way trade occurs: Spurs acquire Pietrus, Suns acquire Bell, Jazz acquire Kleiza. That would leave the Spurs with . . .

Johnson/Bonner
Pietrus/Leonard/Butler or Green
Duncan/Splitter
Ginobili/Anderson
Parker/Neal/Joseph

Sign Pargo, a half decent fifth big and bring over Richards, if possible, to round out the roster.

I'd prefer this to any of Bucher's proposals.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I'd say what was he thinking, but that would suggest he was thinking at all. This is the second time in a couple of months that Bucher has come up with a litany of ridiculous trades involving the Spurs. Both times his primary objective was to acquire an athletic four, who can shoot and both times he's failed to mention what's probably the most likely possibility: Amir Johnson.

Johnson doesn't have the ball skills of Smith, but he works harder, plays within' himself, is significantly cheaper and probably won't cost the Spurs more than Blair, in terms of value. Jefferson/Blair for Johnson/Kleiza or Blair/McDyess for Johnson, works.

Let's presume for a moment that the former occurs (it's more likely, given that it doesn't increase payroll). Now let's presume that this three-way trade occurs: Spurs acquire Pietrus, Suns acquire Bell, Jazz acquire Kleiza. That would leave the Spurs with . . .

Johnson/Bonner
Pietrus/Leonard/Butler or Green
Duncan/Splitter
Ginobili/Anderson
Parker/Neal/Joseph

Sign Pargo, a half decent fifth big and bring over Richards, if possible, to round out the roster.

I'd prefer this to any of Bucher's proposals.

That would be incredible if the Spurs could pull that off

Nice post man

[Sean Cagney]

Man Gervin was great, but are we comparing him to TD?

How many les did we have before TD? We were the poor version of the Utah Jazz before TD. Classy organization that had some great players but could never win .

We should never trade TD. I don't give a damn if he can bring some value. He should and will retire as a Spur.

Now thats what the I am talking about.

[The ADMIRAL 50]

Man Gervin was great, but are we comparing him to TD?

How many les did we have before TD? We were the poor version of the Utah Jazz before TD. Classy organization that had some great players but could never win .

We should never trade TD. I don't give a damn if he can bring some value. He should and will retire as a Spur.

Amen

[The ADMIRAL 50]

With all the caveats throughout the article, I'm not even sure why he bothered to go forward with one (quota?). The only player I like throughout the entire article is Josh Smith, but the Parker-for-Smith straight up deal leaves a huge hole at PG and doesn't represent fair trade value for Parker. If they're willing to include Teague then maybe it's a conversation.

Great call on the teague inclusion. this would have to be done as, as many people have pointed out, the trade creates an obvious hole at point guard and at least teague is servicable with good upside. that said, while right now josh smith is definitely the superior player, cousins has more potential and a higher ceiling. The smith trade would make us better in tims last years but cousins could potentially serve the franchise better in the long run.

[Seventyniner]

Great call on the teague inclusion. this would have to be done as, as many people have pointed out, the trade creates an obvious hole at point guard and at least teague is servicable with good upside. that said, while right now josh smith is definitely the superior player, cousins has more potential and a higher ceiling. The smith trade would make us better in tims last years but cousins could potentially serve the franchise better in the long run.

Good point about Smith/Cousins. Having Tim Duncan as a teacher could really turn Cousins around, but you never know; he might just be a headcase. I'm not sure the Spurs post-Duncan could handle a Rasheed or Z-Bo (pre-Memphis).