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Dirk I admit, I was beginning to doubt he would be able to win it all as a#1 ... I admit when I am wrong he is a badass.
I know one thing for sure, Howard getting 17 PPG on AVG from Shard/Hedo does prove that he had more support than Dirk when Terry/Howard only averaged 17PPG on AVG. That much is clear.
Dirk I admit, I was beginning to doubt he would be able to win it all as a#1 ... I admit when I am wrong he is a badass.
It proves it when most of those 17 PPG on AVG came in the fourth quarter for Dwight, as opposed to "Show up in the first quarter, get high and disappear for the rest of the game" J-Ho.
No, because the Mavs needed Nowitzki's clutch heroics, as much, or more, than any other team..they had a lot of close games, where they needed Dirk to make big shots, which Howard would not be able to do..the disparity in Nowitzki and Howard's overall impact, isn't enough to negate the Mavs' reliance on Nowitzki in clutch time, especially in this particular scenario..
As I said, the reason it's a toss-up, IMO, is because of Nowitzki's superior clutch time ability..otherwise, I would take Howard, because of his superior impact in various, key fields..
I would also take Nowitzki over Lebron, Shaq, Duncan, etc in clutch time, but I don't think he is a better player than any of them..
Totally proves it.
I know.
TC, I agree I said right now, especially after last season it's Dirk. he was amazing. But my point is Dwight is improving every year on offense (strange enough dirk is too) but if Dirk is >>>than Dwight on offense Howard is at least that on defense and Howard may cut it to just > while I dont think the gap defensively is changing.
Still say Dirk is the greater player but probably not for long. I love Dwight howard fault in all. he is the only guy right now that anyone in the NBA would consider trading Lebron (choke included) straight up for. I garuntee Heat would have to at least conisder that trade if the Magic offered ...
As much as dirk embarssed Lebron in the 4th quarters no way Riley makes that trade.
BTW I said many time on here in the playoffs dirk had the best shooting season I have ever seen and i have been watching ball since 1980 of anyone, Bird included. Dirk pretty much stayed hot all season and playoffs.
You can definitely make an argument for Dirk over Dwight, but the argument MK is making is just a little silly.
T-Mac was such a badass scorer when he was 25, and only a few years later as of right now hes not half the player he was. if KD had som offensive game like TD has he would be a GOAT no doubt, even w/o some neat O game he's still a top 5 playa of the league which is well fair to say. dirk is the leader of a champion team he's indispensable to dem mavs, and the german allah has gained loads of personal honors as well, but DH is the better player in terms of overall ability and he should be my #1 choice ova dirk if i were to build a franchise at this point of time
dem mavs are on success mode while the magic are obviously underachieving and DH might be leaving this team soon, which whereas doesn't mean DH is less important a player to his team then dirk to dem mavs imho. swap dirk & DH and both teams are weakened
MK doesn't exist anymore.
Yes it does as long as these arguments are still around
DH has drawn more glamour on the stage imho that was due in big part to the position he plays when he isn't really THAT great imho. Dirk & DH are different style of players its just nonsense to make a parallel comparison between dem two imho. DH would be my choice if i were to build a new young franchise from the ground up but if im keen to win something right now i'd take dirk in an eye wink
agree, some picklebreath arbitrarily disbanded this group when he had no privilege to do so.Yes it does as long as these arguments are still around
I didn't disband . I left the krew and signed with a rival. it was another picklebreath and a yid who disbanded the group with no right to do so.
Hey, I'm here to talk basketball.
I think Dirk has been a legit main guy for quite some time. He just hasn't had the team around him to win the ring, or when he did, Miami didn't cooperate. The Mavs were no slouches in 06, even though they the bed in the Finals.
Of course, I say "main guy" with a caveat that Dirk cannot put the team on his shoulders with a "just give me the ball and get out of the way" approach like some others could. Dirk has his spots, and he needs movement away from the ball by other players in order to be effective. He also needs a legit big to body up in the paint and get offensive boards because although he's a great shooter, he's not the only one on the team who shoots.
Dirk is soft on defense. That means the guy he's covering doesn't get molested too much and has more energy at both ends of the floor. So, for those points Dirk scores, he gives plenty back on defense.
Most teams just have no answer for the guy though. No one can block his shot, so he's not even worried about it and is able to follow through without blinking an eye, even under pressure.
its fine to quit dat krew whenever you want especially at a time when you've already lost your armband to ghazi- da new leader of the MK, however it'd be a whole different story if someone hits back @ the krew wit false comments right after his departure.
badfish is a ty poster i agree on dis one, but who was in charge of the MK at that time when badfish was recruited?
I think to be fair, Dwight plays at a position where he is head and shoulders above his peers while Dirk has a a few contenders at his spot (KG, Randolph,Pau, Amare, Zbo, aldridge, KG Blake and Horford)
So Dwight is the best of a weak group of centers but he has been one of the better post defenders of the past 20 years right along David, Tim, Dikembe, Zo, Ben wallace etc.
Right now? Tough one, but I say Dirk. If I had to pick one guy to roll with in the playoffs, it's him.
Rememba dat time when Dirk took a on Lebron and... I forgot where this post was going.
Okay, here's another one from this list:
http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2011...ers-nos-11-20/
True or False: Carmelo Anthony is the 20th-best player in basketball. There's 19 guys better than him.
Dennis Johnson - 79 Sonics.
No, but top 100 lists from media outlets are always atrocious..
Westbrick has no business being at 12th IMO, Pierce is too high, Garnett is too high, Amare and Carmelo are too low, Duncan might be too high, Parker is too high, Rudy Gay is too high, Gordon is too high, Iguodala is way too high, Odom is too high, Tyreke Evans is way too high, Gerald Wallace is way too high, Noah is way too high..that's just a quick glance of the top 50, alone..
Was he truly the undisputed #1 on that team, or were they a 04 Pistons style anomaly?
That's a lot.
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