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A healthy T-Mac with Kobe's work ethic and obsession to be great would have been the scariest player of the post Jordan era.
Methinks this thread hath backfired on the OP.
@ the OP.
A healthy T-Mac with Kobe's work ethic and obsession to be great would have been the scariest player of the post Jordan era.
Methinks this thread hath backfired on the OP.
? McGrady never had a HOF center right next to him...
Shaq was getting doubled/tripled which allowed Kobe to shoot whatever he wanted and he still couldn't win a finals MVP lmao. The one time Kobe tried to be MVP he refused to pass to Shaq and literally shot his team out of the 2004 NBA Finals after being shut down by Prince, meanwhile a year later a prime Manu tore that same defense and defender a new asshole.
Kobe then failed to make the playoffs, failed to beat an Amare-less suns team, and then lost once again in the 1st round. It was only until Bynum/Gasol became two of the best big men in the League that Kobe finally started winning again, as well as getting the best 6th man and one of the best defenders in the NBA. And despite Kobe having one of his best playoff performances of all time they failed to get out of the first round because of Gasol's poor play.
Yao won't make the HOF?
Uh oh, just opened another can of worms...
Shaq will make it for what he did on the court. IF Yao makes it, it will be because of China. Like always, Yao got voted in to all star games without playing full seasons
tbh, much like T-Mac, Yao got jobbed by his injuries.
neither has Jordan without Pippen, infact, Jordan never even had a winning season without Pippen
But Jordan never had a dominate big man like Kobe has. Kobe is a really good player(at least top 15 for sure all time) but had the benefit at having some of the best big man the years he done good in the league.
Kobe is top 10 alltime, and better than Duncan
and dominate big man, lol, as good as gasol is, he is not a top 50 alltime player
Kobe was voted best player of decade by TNT and Sporting News
Does your butthurt?
no, does yours?
He's not even the best at his position, tbh...
You do know that since there are only 5 positions in basketball, you wouldn't have to be the best at your position to still be considered a top 10 player, right? That's pretty basic mathematics.
He's not even the best at his position, tbh...
Whether Kobe is top 10 or not is debatable. Using the argument that he's not the best at his position doesn't matter.
Yeah, I know. He's not top 10, not even the best at his position. Don't think I said anything wrong before you started crying.You do know that since there are only 5 positions in basketball....
what does that have to do with anything
He's not even the best at his position, tbh...
and there isn't 10 players who had a better career than kobe
What does Jordan has to do with a T-Mac vs Kobe comparison?
he couldnt find his stats fast enough.What does Jordan has to do with a T-Mac vs Kobe comparison?
I really don't know about AI's work ethic (other than his 'talkin bout practice' soundbite) but I still think he got about as much out of his ability as he could have. I'd say he more than reached his potential. It makes me think he worked pretty hard behind closed doors.
Kobe won with a top 10 player of all time in Shaq. Jordan didn't.
The hate is strong in this thread ...
Top 10 of all-time?! LOL Kobe has a better chance at top 10 than Shaq ... what are you 20 years old?
Kobe is at least (well at best, fixed) 2nd best SG shaq is barely a top 5 center Kareem, Russell, Wilt are considered better by most. Some could argue Hakeem and Moses as well ...
if you add duncan who really is a center shaq is maybe 4th/5th ...
Magic won all 5 les with a top 10 player
Kareem won 5/6 les with a top 10 player, and another le with a top 12 player
1. I said "At Least" top 15 all time b/c there are still people for some reason who don't believe he is top 10 which I have him in my top 10. I think Duncan is better than Kobe ( I tend to like big men more than guards, its just a matter of preference). I never said Gasol is a top 50 of all time BUT he is one of the best big man in the league while he is playing these past few years on the LA championship teams. Kobe always had the better big man in the league when he ringed, thats what I'm trying to say.
Remember a lot of us say that these past years the big men in the league right now is water downed(Center specifically imo).
I don't care what media has as the best player of the decade. People look too much into stats and highlights not into some the intangibles a player had. Duncan's defensive anchoring/presence and Kobe's killer instinct are things that can't be measured very well. Even though Kobe's game winners % is not that good (around 30%), a lot of us would love to have him to have the ball if we need a 3pter.
Last edited by BoricuaCJA; 08-24-2011 at 08:52 PM.
I know, right?
Why hate on Jordan when talking about Kobe and T-Mac?
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